List of All the Different Types of Elves

[Gez]

Well, if you don't want non-WotC products (know then that you may as well drop the Birthright, Ravenloft, Spelljammer, Dark Sun, and Mystara settings, since they have never had anything published by WotC, and won't), I suppose it's useless to tell you of the Nevae.

The half-elf/half-dwarf crossbreed is called "dwelf" in Dwarves Deep. I don't think it was mentionned in the CBoE...

 

[Alzrius]

Well, if you don't want non-WotC products (know then that you may as well drop the Birthright, Ravenloft, Spelljammer, Dark Sun, and Mystara settings, since they have never had anything published by WotC, and won't)

This statement is somewhat inaccurate. Birthright, Ravenloft, Spelljammer, Dark Sun, and Mystara are all WotC products in the sense that WotC owns the rights to them, and any use of them requires their permission. They are WotC products because WotC owns them.

It's also worth noting that Ravenloft had several products published for it after WotC bought TSR in 1997, including Vecna Reborn (1998), Carnival (1999), and Van Richten's Monster Hunter's Compendium volumes 1 (1999), 2 (1999), and 3 (2000). For the Birthright campaign, Player's Secrets of Hogunmark was given a limited released in 1998 to RPGA Network members, and a few other products were published electronically around that time.

 

[X-Calator]

I don't really care who owns the rights to what. If it fits in the D&D mythos, I want it, whether it's official or not. Once we start categorizing our creations by copyright is the moment we start limiting our imagination.

That's why I asked for the elves from the Scarred Lands and Kingdoms of Kalamar. I know the Iron Kingdom really doesn't value all that kind of stuff so that's the only setting I really don't care for. They are more of a realism branch.

 

[BOZ]

wow, this is getting more comprehensive than i ever expected... anyone have a full list of all the elven types?

hmm, we should put together more listings like this.

 

[Alzrius]

I would still recommend keeping this to WotC, just for the sake of simplicity. I would also recommend not drawing lines where there is no racial/statistical difference, but I'm apparently on the minority there. So, the full list so far is Filby's, since she's gone back and edited in corrections and additions.

I'd still hold out for citations though, some of these are just "I think" and such.

btw, should "drider" be added to that list somewhere? They are a subset of drow elves after all (though now with a template that can be added to any creature!).

 

[Krug]

where's the nekkid elf??

 

[X-Calator]

wow, this is getting more comprehensive than i ever expected... anyone have a full list of all the elven types?

hmm, we should put together more listings like this.

That was exactly my intention, Bozzy. I want it to be as detailed as I can get it. Can't wait for dwarves, which should be simpler to do than elves.

I would still recommend keeping this to WotC, just for the sake of simplicity.

I don't see what that has to do with anything, really. If it's D&D, why does it matter?

 

[Gez]

I would still recommend keeping this to WotC, just for the sake of simplicity. I would also recommend not drawing lines where there is no racial/statistical difference, but I'm apparently on the minority there. So, the full list so far is Filby's, since she's gone back and edited in corrections and additions.

In 2e, in the Realms, wood elves and wild elves had the same traits. The "wild elf" of the CBoE didn't existed in the Realms, it was only the Grugach from Greyhawk. In 3e, they gave the Grugach stats to the wild elves of the Realms. Which is why mere statistical differences aren't sufficient. (But by the way, Svartalfar are like drow, except for their alignment entry, so you do have a statistical difference .) Similarly, look at the Hill Dwarf and Mountain Dwarf in your MM. Statistically, they are exactly the same. Simply, mountain dwarves are a bit taller, and prefer mountains, hill dwarves are a bit shorter and prefer hills. All the rest is the same (and they sure share much more in common than drow and svartalfar).

 

[Alzrius]

I don't see what that has to do with anything, really. If it's D&D, why does it matter?

In a very poetic/ironic way, you summed up my point: outside of WotC, none of the rest of it is D&D, just d20 games.

Originally posted by Gez
In 2e, in the Realms, wood elves and wild elves had the same traits. The "wild elf" of the CBoE didn't existed in the Realms, it was only the Grugach from Greyhawk.

Where a 3E reinterpretation has occured, use that. Only if none has been given yet should older edition material be used then.

In 3e, they gave the Grugach stats to the wild elves of the Realms. Which is why mere statistical differences aren't sufficient

Which is why I said, and I quote myself, "racial/statistical difference".

But by the way, Svartalfar are like drow, except for their alignment entry, so you do have a statistical difference .)

I already said this...

Originally posted by Alzrius
The drow of Svartalheim are, IIRC, physically and statistically the same as other drow, save for the different alignment.

Originally posted by Gez
Similarly, look at the Hill Dwarf and Mountain Dwarf in your MM. Statistically, they are exactly the same. Simply, mountain dwarves are a bit taller, and prefer mountains, hill dwarves are a bit shorter and prefer hills. All the rest is the same (and they sure share much more in common than drow and svartalfar).

I don't have my MM with me, but again, I said "racial/statistical".

 

[X-Calator]

In a very poetic/ironic way, you summed up my point: outside of WotC, none of the rest of it is D&D, just d20 games.

Don't they all carry the Dungeons and Dragons label, though? Or are you saying that they no longer do because of copyright changeovers?

Sorry, I don't know what d20 is. I wish there was an FAQ page for all of those terms, but I'm lost in a maelstrom of links when it comes to looking for those kinds of things.

Forgive me for not knowing what all of that stuff means. I am new to the scene, afterall. Whereas most of you have played all of your lives, I've entered the picture only two years ago.

Where a 3E reinterpretation has occured, use that. Only if none has been given yet should older edition material be used then.

That's probably a lot easier to understand than simply "Don't use it if it doesn't belong to Wizards of the Coast."

So, you're saying if the same material has been rehashed for 3e, then don't use the stuff that came before, provided it's the same thing. However, I can use older stuff that 3e hasn't touched, right? I just have to convert it as I see fit. I like the way that sounds.

Okay, so what worlds/monsters are obsolete that we've talked about?

Oh looky, I found a place that might make my job a little easier:
http://www.flash.net/~brenfrow/