Uller
Adventurer
Tonight my group is continuing on with LMoP. I've set it in Nentir Vale 10 years after the events of Reavers of Harkenwold and Thunderspire Labyrinth (those PCs are now NPCs), sprinkled a few hooks for some 4e adventures and some homebrew ones. They've found a few that they may be following in the near future but for now I think they are on their way to Cragmaw Castle and then Wave Echo Cave.
We started this at 3rd level (having played the playtest already some of my players didn't want to return to 1st level) so difficulty has been scaled up. They just cleared Thundertree and are now 5th level. I am planning on keeping Cragmaw Castle fairly easy and quick so we can complete it in one session (I've beefed up a few of the encounters...the Grick is now a Grick Alpha and the Owl Bear is now a Shambling Mound...the door has "Garbage Disposal" written on it in goblin and a little trap door that can be used for dropping trash into it's lair. King Grol is a Bugbear Chief and his body guards are Bugbears). Rather than a doppleganger with King Grol there is going to be a slaver from Thunderspire Labyrinth...probably an agent of the Duergar. King Grol has kept Gundren alive because he knows a dwarf with mining skills might be valuable to someone...when the PCs arrive Grol and the slaver are negotiating a price for Gundren and a bunch of other prisoners.
So now I am looking at beefing up Wave Echo Cave to make it a good challenge for five 5th level characters. That's easy enough. But now I'm thinking about who Black Spider is. I don't think he's a drow (too obvious). But we already know he enchanted Iarno (the Glasstaff was a "gift" that enslaved Iarno's mind...the party had to quest to Agatha to break the curse, free Iarno and make the staff safe to use). I'm thinking Black Spider is one of two things (or perhaps both):
A corrupted Mage of Saruun: He has reopened the Well of Demons in Thunderspire Labyrinth and needs the Forge of Spells so he can create an item that will allow him to control the Guardian (not a dragon...it's a demon) to overthrow the Mages of Saruun and take control of Thunderspire Labrynth. Perhaps he's in league with the Duergar who want revenge on the PCs (now NPCs) that damaged them so badly. -OR (AND?)- He's actually an agent of the wizard (don't recall his name at the moment) trapped in the Pyramid of Shadows. He know's the location of the Pyramid or at least how to make it appear but is working on creating an item to allow the wizard to free himself (he thinks he is working on an item to allow him to take control of the Pyramid and gain it's power).
Either way...what about the crunch? What level to make him a suitable and perhaps recurring foe? Class? Race? Maybe 8th? Obviously he's a spell caster of sorts. We haven't had too many Sorcerers. So maybe a sorcerer with a lot of enchanty type spells (makes a good "spider"...he weaves webs of deceit to trap his victims...). Maybe he's actually a monster (mind flayer?). At first I was actually thinking of having him be an ancient black dragon with spell casting ability and all these goblins and such were all just his agents. Obviously he won't even be in Wave Echo Cave then...it will just be another of his agents trying to secure the Spell Forge for him (her?...her would be better I think) or even just gathering treasure for Black Spider's hoard and he'd be more of a background villain for a long time.
I'd love to hear some ideas from others.
We started this at 3rd level (having played the playtest already some of my players didn't want to return to 1st level) so difficulty has been scaled up. They just cleared Thundertree and are now 5th level. I am planning on keeping Cragmaw Castle fairly easy and quick so we can complete it in one session (I've beefed up a few of the encounters...the Grick is now a Grick Alpha and the Owl Bear is now a Shambling Mound...the door has "Garbage Disposal" written on it in goblin and a little trap door that can be used for dropping trash into it's lair. King Grol is a Bugbear Chief and his body guards are Bugbears). Rather than a doppleganger with King Grol there is going to be a slaver from Thunderspire Labyrinth...probably an agent of the Duergar. King Grol has kept Gundren alive because he knows a dwarf with mining skills might be valuable to someone...when the PCs arrive Grol and the slaver are negotiating a price for Gundren and a bunch of other prisoners.
So now I am looking at beefing up Wave Echo Cave to make it a good challenge for five 5th level characters. That's easy enough. But now I'm thinking about who Black Spider is. I don't think he's a drow (too obvious). But we already know he enchanted Iarno (the Glasstaff was a "gift" that enslaved Iarno's mind...the party had to quest to Agatha to break the curse, free Iarno and make the staff safe to use). I'm thinking Black Spider is one of two things (or perhaps both):
A corrupted Mage of Saruun: He has reopened the Well of Demons in Thunderspire Labyrinth and needs the Forge of Spells so he can create an item that will allow him to control the Guardian (not a dragon...it's a demon) to overthrow the Mages of Saruun and take control of Thunderspire Labrynth. Perhaps he's in league with the Duergar who want revenge on the PCs (now NPCs) that damaged them so badly. -OR (AND?)- He's actually an agent of the wizard (don't recall his name at the moment) trapped in the Pyramid of Shadows. He know's the location of the Pyramid or at least how to make it appear but is working on creating an item to allow the wizard to free himself (he thinks he is working on an item to allow him to take control of the Pyramid and gain it's power).
Either way...what about the crunch? What level to make him a suitable and perhaps recurring foe? Class? Race? Maybe 8th? Obviously he's a spell caster of sorts. We haven't had too many Sorcerers. So maybe a sorcerer with a lot of enchanty type spells (makes a good "spider"...he weaves webs of deceit to trap his victims...). Maybe he's actually a monster (mind flayer?). At first I was actually thinking of having him be an ancient black dragon with spell casting ability and all these goblins and such were all just his agents. Obviously he won't even be in Wave Echo Cave then...it will just be another of his agents trying to secure the Spell Forge for him (her?...her would be better I think) or even just gathering treasure for Black Spider's hoard and he'd be more of a background villain for a long time.
I'd love to hear some ideas from others.