Loki! (spoiler thread)

[MarkB]

So what do people make of the fact that Sylvie says she "had to pull a memory from hundreds of years prior" when talking about how she interrogated the TVA hunter? The scene at the start of the episode, where they're in the club drinking margaritas, seemed fairly contemporary to our time ... e.g. the song that's playing (which, incidentally, is incredibly appropriate lyrically) came out in 2019.

So what did Sylvie mean by "hundreds of years prior"? Does that mean the TVA is based in the future? Is she from the future?

I'm pretty sure they're isolated from both normal time and space. "Hundreds of years ago" only has meaning in terms of that particular TVA agent's personal timeline - it's the amount of time she's been working for them.

 

[Staffan]

So what do people make of the fact that Sylvie says she "had to pull a memory from hundreds of years prior" when talking about how she interrogated the TVA hunter? The scene at the start of the episode, where they're in the club drinking margaritas, seemed fairly contemporary to our time ... e.g. the song that's playing (which, incidentally, is incredibly appropriate lyrically) came out in 2019.

So what did Sylvie mean by "hundreds of years prior"? Does that mean the TVA is based in the future? Is she from the future?

I figured it meant hundreds of years prior for that particular hunter. Each person has their own timeline, and for most people it runs right along the proper one. But the people in the TVA exist outside the normal flow of time, so clearly this person originated in something close to the present day and then did something that turned them into a variant, was abducted/recruited by the TVA, and has spent a couple of centuries on the job.

 

[Zaukrie]

I'm pretty sure they're isolated from both normal time and space. "Hundreds of years ago" only has meaning in terms of that particular TVA agent's personal timeline - it's the amount of time she's been working for them.

Concur. So, TVA agents are immortal pretty much. And they have weapons that can disintegrate GODS. And no one has heard of them?

 

[MarkB]

Concur. So, TVA agents are immortal pretty much. And they have weapons that can disintegrate GODS. And no one has heard of them?

They generally only appear in divergent timelines, and they burn those when they leave.

 

[pukunui]

OK but if she's from the "present day" more or less, and the TVA exists outside time, then what does "hundreds of years ago" actually mean? How can she have been working for the TVA for several centuries if time "works differently" in the TVA?

 

[Tonguez]

I figured it meant hundreds of years prior for that particular hunter. Each person has their own timeline,

But Sylvie is at that point existing in the same timeline as the hunter - so from her perspective its still hundred of years ago, which implies their shared timeline is in the future. Also Sylvie having spent years on the plan would suggest that there is a shareable time reference.

Based on last weeks dialogue about Duplicate castings being identical at the molecular level, I wonder if Sylvie is in reality the mindwiped molecular duplicate of Loki-A from a future in which Loki died - She's Sylvie Lokisdotter

 

[MarkB]

OK but if she's from the "present day" more or less, and the TVA exists outside time, then what does "hundreds of years ago" actually mean? How can she have been working for the TVA for several centuries if time "works differently" in the TVA?

"Differently" isn't the same as "not at all". That's the amount of time she personally has subjectively experienced since she joined the TVA. It may not be the same amount of time that the squadmate working next to her has experienced since they met. It may not even have any valid meaning beyond her own perception.

 

[MarkB]

But Sylvie is at that point existing in the same timeline as the hunter - so from her perspective its still hundred of years ago, which implies there shared timeline is in the future. Also Sylvie having spent years on the plan would suggest that there is a shareable time reference.

Why does it suggest that? She's been working on her plan for years from her own personal perspective, but those years have been spent hanging out in apocalypses at various points throughout space and time, in between going to other random points in space and time in order to create divergent timelines so that she can ambush TVA teams. There's no shared objective timeline there.

 

[Zaukrie]

They generally only appear in divergent timelines, and they burn those when they leave.

It's hard to believe that is enough to keep them secret from the many almost unstoppable forces in the MCU, but I'll try to get there....

 

[pukunui]

Based on last weeks dialogue about Duplicate castings being identical at the molecular level, I wonder if Sylvie is in reality the mindwiped molecular duplicate of Loki-A from a future in which Loki died - She's Sylvie Lokisdotter

Someone spotted a reference to her as "Sylvie Laufeysdottir" on a TVA sheet somewhere. The image is in the thread about the replica crowns.

EDIT:

There's this little tidbit in the episode itself apparently. It seems she is Loki in that she's the child of Laufey but is using a different name. One which may be more of an easter egg than anything else.