Lost 10/27/04

[Datt]

Opened a new thread for discussion!

Okay. This show keeps getting better and better every week. I saw the English coming when the fake interior decorator asked her if she has been taking her lessons.

Now what I want to know is what exacly Locke saw. He has obvisouly figured out some strange things about the island. He has that knowing look about him. I just wonder what he had to give up to get the boar.

 

[WizarDru]

Let's say for a moment that Locke isn't kidding, when he says that the island wants people to 'pay a price'. If I were to buy into the 'island feeds' concept (and I'm more willing to accept some variation of that than the 'fantasies come true' theory), then I'd hazard that the island wants to take their pain. So far, everyone on the island has a reason for not wanting to return home, and the island is giving them a way out...but it expects payment. Finding 'Adam and Eve' makes you wonder about the island. Any science initiative is hard to swallow, if it's been working on people this long.

Frankly, I think the beachers are dreaming, if they think that a plane is going to see a fire from 12,000 feet, if they even bother to look down...and the chance of a boat coming in their remote location? Prolly not likely...especially if no one's picked up on the SOS signal by now. Of course, I'm sure they could reach a compromise. There's no reason they have to abandon their fire to man the caves...but we'll see what happens. AFAICT, no one is truly safe, there.

Oh, and as far as the aspect of fantasy elements on the island possibly being related only to science or super-science, that doesn't appear to have come from Abrams, wherever it came from. According to Newsday, " Those eerier elements will add spice to "Lost," the producers promise, but not provide the drama's main flavor. Abrams said at the TV critics' fall-season press tour that he wanted to "make it part of the fabric of the show from the beginning" so viewers wouldn't feel blindsided if fantasy elements suddenly appeared in episode eight amid character conflict."

 

[Sarigar]

We saw Sun's POV, but I'm wondering if we'll see Jin's. And the episode I'm waiting for is the dog's background!

 

[Crothian]

The thing about staying on the beach is hope. Hope is a powerful thing and while their hope to be rescued is a remote possibility, it is still important for them to believe. Hope is a dangerious thing to have but even more dangerious when its lost.

 

[LightPhoenix]

On a not Sun/Jin note...

Jack said the bodies were there for forty years. Isn't that about the length of time the transmission has been playing? Or was it shorter than that?

Second, Jack pulled out the white and black stones... haven't we heard something about a light vs. dark idea before in one of the episodes?

 

[Crothian]

The transmission was only 16 years old

 

[Fast Learner]

On the stones, yes, before encountering the creature (but post miracle) Locke showed backgammon stones to Walt, referring to them as "light" and "dark". There are also many ancient traditions involving black and white stones, either using them to tell the future, guide you, or indicate innocence vs. guilt. What I want to know is why Jack hid the stones from everyone, especially Locke.

On the beach: dude, you guys are in a cove. You have at best a 60 degree view of the water around the island, so even if a boat does go by close enough to see, you only have a 1 in 6 chance of seeing it, and they have a rougly 0.01% chance of seeing you. If they want anyone to see them (air or water), they're going to have to build a huge fire and pour tons of oily greens on it to produce huge volume of smoke.

Man, can you tell we're gamers?

 

[KnowTheToesToe]

I also find it interesting that since Locke has "met" the thing in the woods, we haven't seen it. It hasn't been knocking down tree's or anything. And the "survivors" are not all that concerned with trapsing around the woods. Yes, Locke made reference to it with Charlie (?) the rocker, but it hasn't been seen in a while.

The big thing with the beach people....ummmmm...wouldn't a rescue party see the wreckage of the plane on the beach? Or if they are wanting the signal fire to remain, then assign 2 people 24 hour shifts to stay on the beach to maintain the fire.

I'm not sure about the "pain" reference made in an earlier post. The preview of next week's episode does show Charlie demanding his stash back.

 

[Crothian]

The big thing with the beach people....ummmmm...wouldn't a rescue party see the wreckage of the plane on the beach? Or if they are wanting the signal fire to remain, then assign 2 people 24 hour shifts to stay on the beach to maintain the fire.

Well, the people have showed a great inability to work together. While this makes sense for us, they didn't even have the simple idea to have people sleep in shifts whern they were worried about whatever is knocking over trees.

 

[Fiery James]

Or if they are wanting the signal fire to remain, then assign 2 people 24 hour shifts to stay on the beach to maintain the fire.

Yeah, that's what I thought. No reason to say that you either live Here or There. Why not do shifts? "OK, we need 5 people to stay on the beach and work the rescue angle at all times, so we'll do it in 2 day shifts. Who's taking the first watch?" That's assuming that the caves are a serious distance away -- and they went back and forth twice in one day, so assume they're 3 hours at the most. That's really enough to swtich shifts daily, with people taking a shift every 4-5 days or so.

I mean, c'mon!

But in truth, the castaways may be motivated by something below the surface that's subtly manipulating them -- some force that wants them split into two groups: the light side, and the dark side. Let's see how it pans out.

It's like supernatural survivor, after all!

- JB