Lost 2-21-97

I've been a big supporter of Lost and have defended it a lot, but last night's episode really got to me. Don't tell us you are going to reveal all these secrets we've been waiting for and then let us down like that. I don't want them to tell us everything at once, but it's Season 3 for goodness sake. They need to start giving us a little more info on what's going on.

I have to echo the sentiments I'm seeing here and elsewhere on the net. I don't understand why the castaways don't try to figure out what is going on. Carl is talking about watching stars in his back yard with Alex and the reaction of Kate and Sawyer is "hmm, that's interesting... now let's get back to doing nothing". Why not ask him to tell you what is going on, where their village is, etc? Any one of us would have been probing the guy. Same with Jack not asking Cindy, who also crashed on the island, what's going on. How about revealing something that has been a mystery ever since "The Other 48 Days" - how Cindy disappeared? I also agree about the rest of the cast. Where are Jin, Sun, Rose, etc? Why aren't we seeing more of Locke and Sayid? Have the two new folks they introduced disappeared?

About the flashbacks. They were great in Season 1 and they are good now for the characters like Desmond and Juliette. However, why have another Kate or Jack flashback? We already know about them. If you are going to give us an older character's flashback, let it be Locke's where we find out how he ended up in the wheelchair. Jack getting the tattoo wasn't very interesting.

It's not that these episodes are bad. They aren't. But, this is Season 3. It's time for more. This storyline can't go on forever. Sooner or later they are going to have to wind this thing down, and we are seeing no evidence of that happening. Instead we are being strung along with a new shock or irrelevant revelation every week. It's starting to get on my nerves. For someone who has defended the lack of info to come out and say this means that it is really getting to a bad point.
 

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Arnwyn said:
Is it just me, or are the writers trying to make Juliette into a sympathetic character and trying to get the audience to like her? (They're failing miserably, in any case. I keep hoping something bad happens to her.)

I think you're right; she's the only Other to get her own flashback scenes. And you use two perfect words in your question.

I think the writers have succeeded somewhat in making the Juliet character sympathetic to the viewers through her flashbacks. She seems like a nice enough person, and seems to be living for one goal--to help her sick sister get pregnant. Juliet doesn't seem to be caught up in the fame that might come with successfully executing this...she just wants to help sis.

Have the writers given us enough to make us actually like her, though? I say no. Though her heart may have been in the right place, Juliet stole from her employer and used questionable ethics in using her sister as a human guinnea pig. From her early dealings with Jack, she also seems to be quite underhanded and manipulative. And untrustworthy. When she answered Jack's questions with, "It's kind of complicated"...well, such non-answers don't earn her any brownie points in the trust department.

Then again, with all the surveillance equipment the Others seem to have, Juliet's got to be walking on eggshells if she's planning on jumping ship to the Lostaways' side. I'm willing to give her character the benefit of the doubt for now, but I don't see her ever becoming a favorite.
 

IcedEarth81 said:
Have the two new folks they introduced disappeared?

From what I've read elsewhere, Nikki and Paulo are supposed to figure prominently in an episode in the near future (either #11 or #13 of this season). It seems like a lot of people don't like their introduction, but maybe they'll get off their butts and actually investigate some of the island's mysteries. That would make them almost instantaneous fan-favorites at this point!

IcedEarth81 said:
It's not that these episodes are bad. They aren't. But, this is Season 3. It's time for more. This storyline can't go on forever. Sooner or later they are going to have to wind this thing down, and we are seeing no evidence of that happening. Instead we are being strung along with a new shock or irrelevant revelation every week. It's starting to get on my nerves. For someone who has defended the lack of info to come out and say this means that it is really getting to a bad point.

Maybe ABC and not the writers/producers are to blame. They're the ones that marketed the "three big mysteries revealed" BS. Also, I read that the producers are trying to work out an end date for Lost with the network but that nothing had been agreed upon as yet. If they don't know if the series will run for 5 or 8+ years, they likely have to string things out more than they'd like.
 

The Grumpy Celt said:
That the Others DO live on the main island and must to a lot of communiting back and forth to get to the little island with it's The Prisner set up. That Ethan was the main surgeon for the Others. That the Others are pretty adept at brainwashing. That the kisnapped Losties (the stewardess and the children) are alive. That Jack is turning a corner and fighting to be more than a tool, pawn or prisner. That Bia Ling does not know bobbies are supposed to be private things... Well, OK, that is a matter of public record.

Everyone always assumed that the Others lived on the same island, I thought.

As to Ethan, I didn't realize there was a mystery. He was an Other, he kidnapped and tried to kill people, and was in turn killed. End of his story :)

Maybe I just made assumptions about some of that stuff....I assumed the children were alive, since Anna-Lucia saw them wandering in the jungle. If anything, it's a revelation to the characters on the island....not to the viewers.

Banshee
 


Banshee16 said:
What else was revealed? Nothing that I can think of..

That little little girl that was asking Jack about Ana Lucia had a teddybear ( or perhaps another kid close by) that we have seen before? From the underbrush where Charlie and Eko was hiding?

I was pleased with this episode; I can´t help it, but I still get that good feeling inside when watching Lost, and as long I feel that I´m going to watch the show and enjoy it as long as possible.

Asmo
 

Woo! I found one of those Easter egg anagrams those clever Lost writers love to include in the show!

BAI LING is the actress who played Jack's Thai hook-up.

Put those two names together and you get BAILING--what millions of Lost viewers seem to be doing with each passing week. ;)
 

I think the big mysteries ABC thought they were revealing were

1. The meaning of Jack's Tattoos
2. That Cindy and the Children were alive
3. That the others have to commute to work like every one else in the world.
(ie. they live on one island and work on another)
 

Overall I enjoyed this episode. A little too Jack and Others focussed but I felt the story was starting to move in a good direction.

It's about time that Jack mentioned the kidnapping and hanging and taking of kids and killing by the Others to the Others.

I forget, what exactly was did Sawyer's reason for letting Karl go and not following back to the Other's backyards like Kate wanted?
 

Elodan said:
I forget, what exactly was did Sawyer's reason for letting Karl go and not following back to the Other's backyards like Kate wanted?
'Cuz he's a big softie at heart, telling the kid to go back and risk his life for the sake of Lurrrv.
 

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