Lost 2/23/07 Season Finale w/ spoilers

[BraveSirRobin]

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Ben: . . . Wow. I'd never thought of it like that before. I'm really sorry for being irrationally secretive at the cost of your friends' lives and my people's lives. Thank you, Hamid, for snapping me out of it. Sure, I'll tell you everything.

To be blunt, this is poor logic. So just because you asked him nicely, you NOW think he is going to tell the truth? The large majority of those watching would have been shouting for someone to whack him in the mouth, just like the french woman did, just to have him stop talking. It would have been the absurdities of all absurdities if they listened to him after all the mind games he has played on them over their time on the island.

From his presepective he would never tell the truth. We saw in the last episode that he is a paranoid meglomanic and doesn't want to share his "truth" with anyone. That is why he shot Locke.

 

[6pakofdwarves]

I think the beginning of next season will reveal that the flash forward was a vision of Desmonds. Then he runs up as they are ABOUT to leave and convinces them not to. Thus avoiding the pathetic future Jack.

 

[Taelorn76]

The flash forward and maybe the whole episode, if not, then the Jack parts of them, from the point where he tells Kate on the radio, not to come back for him. I have a feeling he is strapped in that chair, Jullette and Ben feeding him drugs and a story, that is why things are so screwed up with him in the future flashes, now all he wants is to be back on the island, and Ben is the only one that can get him back there but he is the person in the coffin, along with Jack's hope but what happens, Ben appears and Jack begs him to take him back, how horrible a mistake it was, that he was wrong and Ben was right....

So your talking about something like what they did in Dallas back in the 80s, the whole season being a dream?

 

[Hand of Evil]

So your talking about something like what they did in Dallas back in the 80s, the whole season being a dream?

It was done with Wizard of Oz way before then. I don't know IF it will be everything, maybe just some parts, the Jack stuff after he got back to the castaways, it may have been from the gassing on.

 

[Taelorn76]

It was done with Wizard of Oz way before then. I don't know IF it will be everything, maybe just some parts, the Jack stuff after he got back to the castaways, it may have been from the gassing on.

That's is an interesting theory, but I think that would anger alot of viewers. They would have to come up with something really good for the non dream sequence.

 

[DonTadow]

The more I think about this one, the more I dislike it. I do think it has finally jumped the shark for me.

Stupid deaths:
1. Charlie - yea, it was suicide, noble or not, just stupid. Figure he would do anything to get off the show.
2. Niomi - Locke recovers from death, travels accross the island and kills someone he does not know. So many other ways to have done it.
3. Tom - An other and needed a bullet in him but Sawyer did not get sick, may be he is getting use to killing.


The biggest question I have is who's vision is was, Locke's as laid in the ditch, Jack's as he sits in a chair being mind-control after saving Ben, or Desmond's. I think, it is Jack in a chair being mind controlled, aka Karl.

I find your reasoning strange for the deaths if you've been watching the show and its mythos.

1. Charlie is convinced that only his death will save claire. He learned his lesson in the forest when Desmon saved him, it saved the future. Charlie wants the future to remain the same with clare saved.

2. This was a powerful scene about Lockes personality. I really dug it. Locke is a superman when no ones looking. H ecan kill someone he doesn't know in the back if he has to. But a friend, someone he knows Locke can't do it. Its not in him.

3 Don't forget, Thom tried to kill Sawyer more than once. He's embarrased them and wanted to kill their friends if he had his way.

 

[DonTadow]

It was done with Wizard of Oz way before then. I don't know IF it will be everything, maybe just some parts, the Jack stuff after he got back to the castaways, it may have been from the gassing on.

It also happened in St. Elsewhere. I seriously doubt that your theory holds water. "it was all a dream" has been labeled the worst storyline in any game/movie/tvshow.

 

[Hand of Evil]

It also happened in St. Elsewhere. I seriously doubt that your theory holds water. "it was all a dream" has been labeled the worst storyline in any game/movie/tvshow.

Not dream, planted memories via clockwork orange, it will be mixed in with some truth to hold it together.

 

[Hijinks]

I wonder ... maybe the "fast-growing Walt" means that the island is on a different time than the rest of the world?

Naomi said that they had found the plane, and found all of the bodies at the bottom of the ocean. That takes time. She also told Charlie that he's famous now, and has a "Greatest Hits" album out because he supposedly died in the crash. But we all know it takes longer than 3 months to get an album produced, and they've said things on the island that leads me to believe it's been about 90 days, not much longer than that.

So maybe the rest of the world has progressed a year or two, while it's only been a few months for them? I'm not sure how that would tie in to the pregnant women dying, if it does, but it's an interesting idea.

 

[David Howery]

Well, do you think the moonpool was deeper than 66 feet? Beyond that is the point where divers have to start planning staged ascents. Plus there is a risk of an embolism if they tried to hold their breath on the ascent...they would have to exhale the entire way up (which isn't as easy as it sounds) or their lungs would rupture from the expanding air. I can see Dez having the training for that from his military and sailing days, but not Charlie.

Some have said that Charlie should have swam out the port-hole, but it was barely as big around as Patchy's face. There is no way, IMO, that he would have been able to squeeze out there.

no clue.... I know nothing about deep sea diving, but I thought if you went only as deep as you could hold your breath, it wasn't that deep... the thing didn't look like it was 60' below the surface....