Lost
- Thread starter Crothian
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Bill Scott
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So what do we have so far?
1, A giant creature, which we can't see, who makes a mechanical sounding roar and shakes trees without destroying them
2, A polar bear who has been transplanted from the artic to the tropics
3, A decade old request for help, from the same island, the radio picked up
This show is weird but I think I know what's going on. I have a GURPS adventure called Flight 13 where these aliens kidnap the passengers of a plane and study their reactions from various stressfull stimuli. This could be what's happening here. Maybe it's not aliens but top scienists studying the mental trauma the passengers are going through. Here are clues that lead me into thinking this way
1, Do we actually see the plane crash? Not that I recall. We see various memories of the passengers before the crash which could have been planted memories, probably by hypnosis. I think whoever or whatever is behind this planted a wrecked plane on the ground and placed the 'survivors' around it
2, The giant creature that no one ever sees and does'nt leave any footprints. Maybe the trees that shake are either fake trees with mechanics inside are real trees with thin wire running down the side to yank them back and forth. The roar does sound mechanical in my opinion. Then we have the pilot of the plane which the heroes find. I think he was a plant so the heroes would actually see someone get grabbed and eaten. And why was'nt he completely eaten? So the lab rats cold see the body, or dummy would be more like it, in the tree they just happened to walk under
3, The polar bear was there to confuse the lab rats. Why a polar bear you may ask? I think a black bear or another type of bear would'nt be as shocking
4, I think the radio signal is coming from the base of the scientists or aliens who are conducting te experiments
Anyways, both episodes of Lost will replay again Saturday so I'm definitely watching them again to see what I missed
1, A giant creature, which we can't see, who makes a mechanical sounding roar and shakes trees without destroying them
2, A polar bear who has been transplanted from the artic to the tropics
3, A decade old request for help, from the same island, the radio picked up
This show is weird but I think I know what's going on. I have a GURPS adventure called Flight 13 where these aliens kidnap the passengers of a plane and study their reactions from various stressfull stimuli. This could be what's happening here. Maybe it's not aliens but top scienists studying the mental trauma the passengers are going through. Here are clues that lead me into thinking this way
1, Do we actually see the plane crash? Not that I recall. We see various memories of the passengers before the crash which could have been planted memories, probably by hypnosis. I think whoever or whatever is behind this planted a wrecked plane on the ground and placed the 'survivors' around it
2, The giant creature that no one ever sees and does'nt leave any footprints. Maybe the trees that shake are either fake trees with mechanics inside are real trees with thin wire running down the side to yank them back and forth. The roar does sound mechanical in my opinion. Then we have the pilot of the plane which the heroes find. I think he was a plant so the heroes would actually see someone get grabbed and eaten. And why was'nt he completely eaten? So the lab rats cold see the body, or dummy would be more like it, in the tree they just happened to walk under
3, The polar bear was there to confuse the lab rats. Why a polar bear you may ask? I think a black bear or another type of bear would'nt be as shocking
4, I think the radio signal is coming from the base of the scientists or aliens who are conducting te experiments
Anyways, both episodes of Lost will replay again Saturday so I'm definitely watching them again to see what I missed
Sado
First Post
I don't get why, on a deserted mysterious unknown island with obviously dangerous animals running around, that chick would be so eager to disable the gun. Does she not see how it could be useful? It kind of borders on the irrational. It seems all the sensitive pc (thats politically correct, not player characters) heroes nowadays are so dead-set against guns, even when they are obviously useful. I don't get it.
stevelabny
Explorer
hmm. still no sleestaks. oh well. maybe next week 
when negative zero first told me his fear manifestation idea last week, it sounded really good. I rewatched the first episode and wasnt convinced that it was right though. This week we get the kid reading a comic book, with a polar bear in it....and then a little while later the mountatin-climbing group encounters a real live polar bear. HMMM. (ya know, i just went back to see if the comic is actually in spanish like the dad said, or if its in french which would make more sense, but i'm still on vcr, so its fuzzy. can someone with tivo make it out? i also can swear i saw the word PLANES so a translation would be nifty too. looks like an issue of JSA but I'm not up to date on JSA so i don't know which issue
)
that pretty much seals it for me... its not so much fear mainfestation as imagination mainfestation. or somesuch. i like it. because the possibilities are limitless, you can easily bring back the dead, or any kind of creature, or do just about anything depending on what rules the creature/island is following.
to back this up, theres actually quite a nice post on abc.com's lost messageboards about how the next episodes title is
and the bald guys character name is Locke and how
as for the rumor that
when negative zero first told me his fear manifestation idea last week, it sounded really good. I rewatched the first episode and wasnt convinced that it was right though. This week we get the kid reading a comic book, with a polar bear in it....and then a little while later the mountatin-climbing group encounters a real live polar bear. HMMM. (ya know, i just went back to see if the comic is actually in spanish like the dad said, or if its in french which would make more sense, but i'm still on vcr, so its fuzzy. can someone with tivo make it out? i also can swear i saw the word PLANES so a translation would be nifty too. looks like an issue of JSA but I'm not up to date on JSA so i don't know which issue
)
that pretty much seals it for me... its not so much fear mainfestation as imagination mainfestation. or somesuch. i like it. because the possibilities are limitless, you can easily bring back the dead, or any kind of creature, or do just about anything depending on what rules the creature/island is following.
to back this up, theres actually quite a nice post on abc.com's lost messageboards about how the next episodes title is
Tabula Rosa
the Tabula Rosa theory by Locke is that we're all born as blank slates. And that we need sensory inputs to actually become anything.
as for the rumor that
one of the people on the island wasn't on the plane [/spolier] I'm pretty sure that's true. And I'm willing to guess who it is.
Its gotta be
Now if someone can only explain the Koreans to me...
Theyre repeating the 2 hour pilot in full on saturday so last chance to pimp this show to your friends.
Its gotta be
the pregnant chick. from what I know, someone that far along is usually told not to fly, especially that long of a flight. Also, she seems to have some sort of an accent and it wouldn't surprise me to find out she can speak french. i'm pretty sure i havent seen her on the plane in any of the flashbacks.
Now if someone can only explain the Koreans to me...
Theyre repeating the 2 hour pilot in full on saturday so last chance to pimp this show to your friends.
Rugger
Explorer
I still think the "manifest thoughts" theory holds up... think about the pregnant woman. She took a HARD fall on her belly and the baby stopped moving. Then all of a sudden it's back a day later?
Hmmmm.....
Unfortunately, I have a feeling the truth is gonna be WAY lamer than we all want it to be...
-Rugger
Hmmmm.....
Unfortunately, I have a feeling the truth is gonna be WAY lamer than we all want it to be...
-Rugger
Rugger
Explorer
Crothian said:
This is important, also...
Supposedly the producers have the show plotted out to 3 seasons...with periodic resolutions scattered throughtout just in-case they get cancelled.
But based on how much they are bragging about ratings, I think we are safe for a while... <fingers crossed against the Firefly curse>
-Rugger
Negative Zero
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right when the bear showed up, i thought that the manifestation was triggered by more than fear. at that time anger seemed to be the most prevalent emotion, so it could be just strong emotion. then again at the time, i hadn't noticed the polar bear in the comic so imagination could work nicely too.
i have to say that the pregnant woman does seem the most likely candidate for the spoiler tip. ... at least so far. i'm also tempted to suspect Locke (despite my earlier comments
) even though he was clearly shown on the plane.
a couple of things bother me. this simplest one being that on their return, Jack, Kate and Charlie mentioned nothing about the pilot's fate, but after the bear was killed, the wannabe lifeguard (with the annoying sister who i can't wait to see die horribly
) asked if thatwas what killed the pilot. now, did the telling happen offscreen? is it a continuity error? does he know more thna he's letting on and slipped up? just wondering.
also, the "polar bear" is never really shown. there are a few quick glimpses of it, but we never see it. my initial reaction, before we were told it was a bear, was that it was the dog, and i kept wondering what caused it to change like that. (of course, at this time i hadn't noticed the polar bear in the comic.) but even if it's not the dog, why not show it? it can't be that hard to taxidermy a dead polar bear, if a live one playing dead in Hawaii was too expensive. a frame with a dyed fur coat and some creative use of ketchup could have worked fine. i can't help wondering if it really wasn't a bear at all, but they just went along with saying so coz it didn't look like anything else. ... reaching a little, i know.
then there's the kid and his "dad." somehow i don't buy that he's the kid's father. there's always an bit of awkward silence whenever some refers to "your son" or "your dad" plus he didn't know if the kid could read spanish or his age. i think he might be the dea mother's latest boyfriend or new husband. or, like my wife says, he might be the kid's father, but they're just estranged. *shrug*
and the dead baby's alive again. right after eating "native food" too. ... hmmm ... maybe the korean couple are the ones not from the plane. why was he so adamant about feeding everyone? Steve, you might be onto something with the whole island food thing.
oh and Sado<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1783457", true); </SCRIPT> , it seemed perfectly reasonable to be. first of all, she's female so irrationality makes perfect sense secondly, trauma = more irrationality. thirdly, (and this blows the whole "she's irrational" idea out of the water, but i'm like that ) the guy with the gun is the only one to have actually started a fight on the island. stands to reason, no one's safe with a gun around.
~NegZ
i have to say that the pregnant woman does seem the most likely candidate for the spoiler tip. ... at least so far. i'm also tempted to suspect Locke (despite my earlier comments
) even though he was clearly shown on the plane.a couple of things bother me. this simplest one being that on their return, Jack, Kate and Charlie mentioned nothing about the pilot's fate, but after the bear was killed, the wannabe lifeguard (with the annoying sister who i can't wait to see die horribly
) asked if thatwas what killed the pilot. now, did the telling happen offscreen? is it a continuity error? does he know more thna he's letting on and slipped up? just wondering.also, the "polar bear" is never really shown. there are a few quick glimpses of it, but we never see it. my initial reaction, before we were told it was a bear, was that it was the dog, and i kept wondering what caused it to change like that. (of course, at this time i hadn't noticed the polar bear in the comic.) but even if it's not the dog, why not show it? it can't be that hard to taxidermy a dead polar bear, if a live one playing dead in Hawaii was too expensive. a frame with a dyed fur coat and some creative use of ketchup could have worked fine.
i can't help wondering if it really wasn't a bear at all, but they just went along with saying so coz it didn't look like anything else. ... reaching a little, i know.then there's the kid and his "dad." somehow i don't buy that he's the kid's father. there's always an bit of awkward silence whenever some refers to "your son" or "your dad" plus he didn't know if the kid could read spanish or his age. i think he might be the dea mother's latest boyfriend or new husband. or, like my wife says, he might be the kid's father, but they're just estranged. *shrug*
and the dead baby's alive again. right after eating "native food" too. ... hmmm ... maybe the korean couple are the ones not from the plane. why was he so adamant about feeding everyone? Steve, you might be onto something with the whole island food thing.
oh and Sado<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1783457", true); </SCRIPT> , it seemed perfectly reasonable to be. first of all, she's female so irrationality makes perfect sense
secondly, trauma = more irrationality. thirdly, (and this blows the whole "she's irrational" idea out of the water, but i'm like that ) the guy with the gun is the only one to have actually started a fight on the island. stands to reason, no one's safe with a gun around.~NegZ
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