Martial equivalent of Wish..

[kenmarable]

The way I see it is Wish/Miracle is the pinnacle of their spellcasting. With fighters, what is the pinnacle of their fighting abilities? Personally, I see it as the vorpal sword. Little different because it's an item not a class ability, but still the instant-kill is analogous as being best as what they do.

 

[Sundragon2012]

The way I see it is Wish/Miracle is the pinnacle of their spellcasting. With fighters, what is the pinnacle of their fighting abilities? Personally, I see it as the vorpal sword. Little different because it's an item not a class ability, but still the instant-kill is analogous as being best as what they do.

Ultimately, to prevent warriors from becoming wizards they need to have their instant-kill abilities tied to a combination of skill and whoop-ass gear like vorpal swords. The fact that they are mundane requires them to need magical gear to do what comes to wizards naturally through study and immersion in the arcane arts.



Sundragon

 

[Stormtalon]

I don't think it's that bad an idea. Giving martial classes a "supermove" might be kind of cool.

For example:

A Good Death
Requires level 18
For the next 10 rounds, the fighter cannot die. She gets a +20 bonus to her attacks, and all damage done is tripled. At the end of those 10 rounds, the fighter dies and cannot be brought back from the dead.

Hmmm, the irrevocable death thing is probably a game-breaker. What probably would work better would be something like:

Blaze of Glory
For the next 10 rounds, the fighter cannot die. She gets a +20 bonus to her attacks, base weapon damage is doubled and she threatens the space around her as if she were two sizes larger. Track damage taken by the fighter as normal, but she suffers no ill effects until the 10 rounds is up. If damage taken is sufficient to kill her, she dies. Otherwise, she is reduced to 1 hp and suffers -10 to all actions until the end of the day.

That's probably a bit more balanced as well as not taking the character permanently out of the game.

And remember, XP costs are gone in 4th ed.

 

[Aloïsius]

The bright flash of light from the swordsman and 30 goons fall dead bloodlessly and the warrior hasn't worked up a sweat, is found in anime and doesn't belong in D&D except as some completely optional spatbook. Maybe this book can be called

Have you watched this movie... Lord of the ring ? In the intro, there is a character wielding a mace that not only kill but throw away dozen of people at each swing...

 

[Felon]

I don't think it's that bad an idea. Giving martial classes a "supermove" might be kind of cool.

For example:

A Good Death
Requires level 18
For the next 10 rounds, the fighter cannot die. She gets a +20 bonus to her attacks, and all damage done is tripled. At the end of those 10 rounds, the fighter dies and cannot be brought back from the dead.

I just have this great mental image of a fighter activating this ability on an opponent who teleports away on the 2nd or 3rd round. She gives a sigh of resignation, she sits down right where she was standing, and whips out a cigarette...

 

[Zurai]

Have you watched this movie... Lord of the ring ? In the intro, there is a character wielding a mace that not only kill but throw away dozen of people at each swing...

That person was also either a wizard or a powerful outsider, depending on which "how do you stat Gandalf" thread you subscribe to.

 

[pawsplay]

I think the martial wish equivalent would be, for the next twenty rounds, you gain a competence bonus to basically everything equal to your class level, and all rolls are treated as natural 20s.

 

[Sundragon2012]

Have you watched this movie... Lord of the ring ? In the intro, there is a character wielding a mace that not only kill but throw away dozen of people at each swing...

Yeah, I did and it is Sauron, a demigod in D&D terms to be sure, who is weilding the weapon in question. No mortal in the movies or the stories was capable of this.



Sundragon

 

[Zurai]

Yeah, I did and it is Sauron, a demigod in D&D terms to be sure, who is weilding the weapon in question. No mortal in the movies or the stories was capable of this.

Depends on how you define "mortal" and whether you consider elves and/or Gandalf to be mortal.

 

[Doug McCrae]

Intimidate a genie.