Marvel Movies

Assenpfeffer said:


I specifically recall that Hannibal King, Blade and Frank Drake were there - it's been a while. This was a short two or three issue arc, in whichever Dr. Strange title was running around the early to mid 80s. I want to say this was after the Claremont run on the book, but I wouldn't swear to that.

I MAY still have the comics around somewhere.
Thanks for the info, Assenpfeffer. I will have to try and track this down. The Frank Drake from original ToD was a bore (he should have just embraced his heritage and run with it :D ), but the other two were the coolest supporting characters in ToD. The first issue of ToD I ever bought was the one with Hannibal King, where you don't find out he's a vampire until the last page. For a 9 year old (or whatever I was at the time), it was quite a surprise.


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Oh man, how times have changed (starting with the first X-Men movie in 2000, no doubt)!

I'd put the start of it with Blade, which came out before X-Men. It was the first good Marvel movie to come out, AND it was a financial success. The only thing lacking about it was that Blade isn't a "marquee" comic character like Superman or Spider-Man.

Most people here probably don't realize that the Spider-Man movie project which eventually came to fruition was first proposed by none other than James Cameron back in 1992 or 1993, with Michael Biehn (of The Terminator and Aliens fame) to play the Spiderman/Peter Parker role. An even earlier attempt at a live-action Spider-Man movie was planned back in 1987 or 1988, but that one obviously never materialized.

Didn't know about Michael Biehn (I like the actor, but as Peter Parker? Doesn't work for me), but I know about the rest. Remember sitting in the theatres in the early 90's telling my brother how a Spider-Man movie directed by James Cameron was imminent. *shakes head*

P.S. = The Flash TV show was pretty good too. Anyone here remember it?

Yes, yes it was. To bad it tanked. :(

Anyway, here's a Punisher picture.

http://superherohype.com/gallery/Punisher/The_Movie/Movie_Stills/punisher.jpg

John Travolta will be playing the villain. A man by the name of Howard Saint.
 

So far I feel Road to Perdition was the best comic-book movie. From Hell was pretty good as well, though not as strong as the better Superhero movies.
 

Mistwell said:
From Hell was pretty good as well, though not as strong as the better Superhero movies.

Spoilers for folks who didn't see From Hell, maybe.
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I don't really count From Hell. Why? The movie didn't include half the goodies from the book (like the really neat "occult geography" angle, or Jack's 7-page soliloquy over Mary Kelly's hacked body (which contains some of the best parts of the book, IMHO)). The film confused characters (Depp's character, while called Abberline, was more like the psychic character in the book...forget his name...), too. Note also that Abberline was a fairly minor character in the book. I was especially slightly annoyed with the ending - whereas the book left it vague as to whether it ended well for Mary or badly - the movie left no doubt.
 

Wow, thanks to everybody, it's good to know that I'm not alone in my opinion that all these movies are great. Here's my personal opinion on things.....

Blade - Was an awesome romp through a somewhat less-publicized comic, this was the first movie made after the huge turnaround in Marvel's leadership. They had a new boss, new set of designers and executives and they made a great movie.

X-Men - After Blade's success, somebody realized that was a future for comic book movies, so they moved to a main-stream comic that was struggling in book sales. After the movie was another huge success, comic sales also increased. Marvel also starts revamping the image of many of their comic lines about this time. e.g. Ultimate Spider-man, with Parker back to the teenage years.

Spider-man - Sales were up, Marvel now realized that had the money, the people, and the technology to make a drop-dead knockout movie. Everything came together, they had the perfect director (a Spidey fan since childhood), the perfect Peter Parker, the perfect MJ, and the perfect design team to make the writing, sets, effects and music all come together. They also had the ingenious idea of making the movie have a great soundtrack, complete with "Hero", the song that became almost synonomous with Spidey.

Daredevil - A slight problem arose here, Marvel was drunk with glee over the amazing success of Spider-man, even down to the huge toy sales. So they went right into the next movie, which was not as well known as Spidey and therefore they had to make it even better to attract audiences who didn't know the character. I also think that the big-name casting was a mistake, Ben Affleck, Colin Ferrell, and the guy who played King-pin. Although they did a great job, in my opinion, one of Spidey and X-men's strengths was the use of mostly unknown or little-known actors. Although Jennifer Garner was my favorite part of the movie, and I think Joe Pantoliano played a great Yurich (sp). Even though, I loved the movie regardless, but I do see it's flaws. I did enjoy that they decided to attach a song to the film, "Bring Me to Life" is a great song.

X2 - Marvel got a bit of a slap across the face with Daredevil and so took a little more care with this. They realized that while a comic movie can be dark, D-D was a little too dark. After all, these are "comic" book movies, not scary thrillers. So they made this movie in the same style as the first X-men, but upped the ante with more action, effects, and storyline. All in all, it's an awesome flick. I think it is better than the first, and I wouldn't mind another one, just not right away, maybe in two or three years.

Hulk - I admit to being leery, I think it will be an exciting and enjoyable adventure, I'm glad they're back to using unknowns, and the effects look astounding. But the Hulk doesn't have much story on his own, none of these characters do. Spidey needed the Goblin, X-men needed Magneto, even Daredevil needed Bullseye. I'm sure I will enjoy it though, I have yet to be disappointed by Marvel's efforts.

Future - I think that Marvel has hit the jackpot with it's movies, but just like in the lottery, you should get your winnings spread out over a period of several years rather than in one huge lump. I'm afraid that if Marvel continues to make these huge movies right on the tails of each other, they're going to fall into a dangerous pit. In the last five years they've made or are in production of at least eight huge blockbuster movies, each one trying to outdo the last. At this rate, the movies will either have continue to grow in awesomeness or else they'll bomb. It's time for Marvel's exec's to sit back and say, "All right, we've made more money than we can ever spend, let's sit back and relax and work on one movie at a time, making each one perfect and releasing them with room to breath. Then each movie won't have to outdo the last, just keep the same intensity and throw in some new twists.
 

I read that someone has the rights to do a film of Morbius, IIRC Artisan, who also has the upcoming Punisher movie. Now while Morbius would be cool to see on the big screen (after all, he's like my favorite comic book dude ever) I just don't know if he could handle a full movie on his own. After all, for a long while, he was just another generic Spider-Man villain. And as I see it, Morb doesn't really have any more backstory than, say, the Green Goblin did. This I worry could become just another generic vampire movie, if it ever even materializes.

And also to go back to the archenemy thing, Morb never had any. The closest he ever had was Vic Slaughter, and maybe that CIA guy sent after him (who employed Slaughter, so they're really one and the same).

Nevermind my personal feelings that Morb would best be used as Blade/Spider-Man crossover enabler.
 
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