From the Orc previewCadfan said:Yes. They all just die.
Also, if the PCs meet a level 29 minion and kill it by shooting it with an area of effect attack that does half damage on a miss, they all get a free level. This is why wizards are so much more powerful than everyone else, even in 4e. They kill legion devil minions for sport until they get to level 20 or so. It takes about an hour, or slightly longer if you invite one of your lower level friends to hide behind a pillar nearby and absorb experience points.
BarkingDeathSquirrel said:From the Orc preview
"HP 1; a missed attack never damages a minion."
Moniker said:I believe the intention is that Minions ALWAYS die whenever they're damaged. That statement doesn't take into account some missed Daily attacks still render damage, and appears to be an oversight.
That is EXACTLY what that statement is taking into account. A missed daily that still deals damage does not kill the minion.Moniker said:I believe the intention is that Minions ALWAYS die whenever they're damaged. That statement doesn't take into account some missed Daily attacks still render damage, and appears to be an oversight.
Heck, the pre-gen fighter (I believe) from Keep on the Shadowfell has an at-will power that deals damage on a miss.Moniker said:I believe the intention is that Minions ALWAYS die whenever they're damaged. That statement doesn't take into account some missed Daily attacks still render damage, and appears to be an oversight.
Moniker said:I believe the intention is that Minions ALWAYS die whenever they're damaged. That statement doesn't take into account some missed Daily attacks still render damage, and appears to be an oversight.
Your first mistake.Korgoth said:I'm being serious.
Moniker said:I believe the intention is that Minions ALWAYS die whenever they're damaged. That statement doesn't take into account some missed Daily attacks still render damage, and appears to be an oversight.
The old wording confused the issue of auto-hits though, this new wording seems to indicate that damage auras do instantly kill minions.Boarstorm said:Err... it seems to me to be the opposite case. They know that some missed attacks still render damage, so they decided to make minions hit-only to PREVENT that kind of cheese.
Wormwood said:Your first mistake.![]()
Sojorn said:I'm sure there'll be a section in the DMG or MM that explains EXACTLY what they mean though.
Mon 05/19: Minions (MM)
Minions: Unsafe at any speedMaximillian said:Hopefully that'll be included in the article on the 19th. From the preview article updating the DDI schedule:
Korgoth said:Maybe so.But when I get interested in a fantasy game, part of it is imagining the world. I have to be able to do that somewhat consistently.
Imagine a bar full of minions. They get into a fight with each other. When some guy hits another guy with a chair or beer mug, does that guy automatically die?
It just seems strange. Like some people are way too tough and others are way too fragile.