Mithral bucklers: A Bard's/Rogue's/Sorcerer's/Wizard's best friend...

[Umbran]

Re: Re: Re: Mithral bucklers: A Bard's/Rogue's/Sorcerer's/Wizard's best friend...

The bonuses for magic armor and shields are labeled as "Enhancement bonuses", not "Armor bonuses".

The enhancement is an enhancement to the shield's armor bonus. The (now enhanced) armor bonus provided by a shield will not stack with anything but worn armor.

 

[IceBear]

Then let him house rule however he wants them to stack or not stack and let this thread die.

Essentially, the rules are sound, but they're worded poorly. The designers didn't come back and change their mind. They just clarified some poor wording.

Oh, I'm not arguing with anyone who wants to house rule anything for what works for them. I just wanted to give some examples of things that may not make logical sense but that the designers decided to rule that way for balance.

Ok...now letting this thread die

IceBear

 

[Jack Haggerty]

Ok...now letting this thread die

Not quite...

The enhancement is an enhancement to the shield's armor bonus. The (now enhanced) armor bonus provided by a shield will not stack with anything but worn armor.

Alright. Thank you Umbran, that's one thing I was looking for, and it makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by CalibanExcept in this case, the rules do say that you can't. PHB, page 104, Armor, Armor Qualities, armor bonus.

The protective value of the armor. Bonuses from armor and a shield stack. This bonus is an armor bonus, so it does not stack with other effecxts that increase your armor bonus, such as the mage armor spell or bracers of armor.

Alright. I must have missed that, or misread it in the rulebook. Thank you, Caliban, that was the second thing I was looking for.

Now... Why didn't you guys just say that in the first place. You'd think all that would have come out in the earlier debates, and you'd be able to politely inform anyone who choose to requestion it.

I concede.

 

[Dr. Zoom]

Now... Why didn't you guys just say that in the first place.

I did. When you asked me if I was sure I directed you to page 104 of the PH, which is what Caliban quoted.

 

[IceBear]

Because someone else mentioned that same passage as Caliban right at the beginning

I just assumed you thought it was vague


[Edit] Yup, Dr. Zoom posted it in the last post on the 1st page.

IceBear

 

[kreynolds]

[Edit] Yup, Dr. Zoom posted it in the last post on the 1st page.

IceBear

Yeah, it always sucks being the last post on the page. Those tend to get overlooked.

 

[Jack Haggerty]

I did read the page... But like I said, for some reason I completely missed the bit about Mage Armor and Bracers of Armor... Sorry.

 

[IceBear]

It's ok. It's just the reason why I didn't mention it again

Oh well, I've got to stop assuming stuff.

IceBear

 

[kreynolds]

Oh well, I've got to stop assuming stuff.

Yeah, you do. You're starting to piss off 'umption.

 

[Lord Ravinous]

I dont see how a Buckler would hamper arcane jestures especially if its mithral, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it strap on to your forearm or wrist(cant remember which).