MM2 sneak peak / new warforged art

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

A fairy that shoots rainbows and kills you with the overwhelming power of her love and kindness?

I definitely want that 3.0 Nymph back with the looks that could kill people. I loved that idea. I even used such a Nymph (as an ally/hook) in a Dragonstar campaign!

 

[Baumi]

Just another thing about the Dragon: His Breath pulls 3 squares and he can hover ... cann't he just hover above the enemies, blast a them which pulls the 3 squares into the air and then they drop for another 1d10 damage?

 

[Rechan]

Just another thing about the Dragon: His Breath pulls 3 squares and he can hover ... cann't he just hover above the enemies, blast a them which pulls the 3 squares into the air and then they drop for another 1d10 damage?

Oh man.

You just made me imagine fighting an Iron dragon in a canyon filled with mist. The dragon flies by the ledge the players are on, breathes on them, sucks them over the edge, and then flies off/ducks under a ledge.

 

[Mentat55]

Forced movement can't move a target into a space it couldn't enter by walking. So while that sounds hella cool, the iron dragon can't lift and drop targets that way.

Edit: Ah, I see. I was responding to Baumi's post, not Rechan's. Hence the bit of confusion.

 

[Rechan]

Forced movement can't move a target into a space it couldn't enter by walking.

Target can walk off a cliff, ne?

 

[Mentat55]

Target can walk off a cliff, ne?

Oh, the iron dragon can definitely hover in a ravine and pull targets towards him, or stand on the other side of gorge, etc. I suddenly have a great idea for an iron dragon encounter...

 

[vagabundo]

If chromatic dragons were also unaligned (or mixed) there wouldn't be a problem.
But instead chromatics are evil and the known metallics are unaligned which is imo bad for fluff. Metallic dragons have always been good and I like them the way.
Sure, I can house rule, but then why even have alignment? Also evil parties also need some iconic creatures to kill.

And why all this? Because of a design philosophy I don't agree with which makes the game look more like a world ripped from diablo 2 where everything which moves outside the city wall is meant to be killed instead of a living fantasy world.
Also, why no support for evil or just unaligned characters? And even the PCs might need some allies.



I dodn't noticed that.
This is so wrong.....

Is this a hypotectical issue or do you run a 4e game?

If you run a 4e game is it really that big a deal to change the alignment for the dragons in your world to whatever you want it to be? I'd guess most 4e DM/player probably agree with the change or don't care either way. I know I agree.

ASIDE: I was reading my 2e FR campaign setting recently and it talks about metallic Dragons in the realms:

These creatures tend toward
good and neutral alignments, or at least seem more disposed to
talk to humans rather than devour them straightaway (though if
threatened, they will do so quickly and without remorse)

 

[Keefe the Thief]

It really doesn't seem like provoking to me. It seems relevant -- the chromatic dragon is unaligned, and this is a change from the way things had been done, and so it is a change, and a change in the game is certainly a valid topic for discussion. That this change represents a design philosophy in 4e doesn't make the dissent less valid.

I mean, if he's provoking, then so is everyone who posts "I love how the new dragon is unaligned, so I can actually have PC's fight it!"

Well, you have to draw the line at "this leads to dumbed-down play! Diablo! Hackslash!" posts. And D&Ds insistence to put everything and its grandmother into a Monster Manual has always surprised me - how about putting good creatures into setting and background books?

 

[Nymrohd]

Personally I think that the monster manual is a flawed concept. I think that the third core book to the DMG and PHB should be an Encounter Manual not a monster manual. Traps and terrain hazards, skill challenges, maybe even NPCs also belong there.

 

[OchreJelly]

I definitely want that 3.0 Nymph back with the looks that could kill people. I loved that idea. I even used such a Nymph (as an ally/hook) in a Dragonstar campaign!

I was happily surprised to see Firbolg, but here's to hoping for more fey beasties! I think it was in Worlds and Monsters where they dropped hints about pixies being a cloud of teeth or something. Perhaps a pixie swarm is in the works? Nymph would be nice too.