Monk house rule

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I am thinking of giving monks an alternate first level feat to stunning fist or grapple. It would be "flurry with chosen weapon". This feat, taken instead of stunning fist or imp. grapple, would allow the monk to gain the ability to flurry with a chosen weapon with which they are proficient.

I am also toying with the adea of having the feat give them proficency with a chosen martial weapon.

Good/bad/ugly?
 
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My current HR is that monks select 4 weapons to be thier 'monk' weapons. This is mainly due to the Eberron setting not really having an Asian culture.. so the Asian themed weapons clash with my sensibilities. Havent had issues, but then the Monk in my game chose the Elvish, open handed, tradition....
 

Primitive Screwhead said:
My current HR is that monks select 4 weapons to be thier 'monk' weapons. This is mainly due to the Eberron setting not really having an Asian culture.. so the Asian themed weapons clash with my sensibilities. Havent had issues, but then the Monk in my game chose the Elvish, open handed, tradition....

Does this seem balanced?
 

I took it from Ken Hood's Martial Art's system, and have not had any problems so far. It also keeps the monk more in the running for magic items as they don't have to wait for a +1 Kama to fall from the sky :)

To me its more of a flavor thing with the chosen weapons. A recent thread went into depth on the subject and the consensus was to use the stats of the core 'monk' weapons and simply call them whatever you want. Personally the idea of a Lucern Hammer wielding monk is just too cool to exclude :)

Eventually I will compile all my emails on the subject and put out my Eberron Monk Traditions in a more readable format to share..

The short version {from memory} is that Monk traditions started in two disparate cultures, one is the Dhakaani.. focused on field of battle combat and weapon mastery, and the Xendrik Elves.. a form learned in slavery where weapons were not available.
Over the years these styles have left thier original roots and are fairly available to a dedicated student at various schools about Khorvaire. The best are still 'old school' Dhakaani and Xendrik masters, altho getting training from then is difficult.

Dhakaani traditions tend towards hard forms, may wear medium armor and use a variety of combat weaponry.. Their use of the Inner Ki is stifled by this reliance on external support.

Xendrik traditions tend toward soft forms, refusing both armor and weapons in favor of strengthening thier Ki, often incorperating Psionics into thier art.

Of course, there exists blends of these extremes, such as the Dance of the Valenarian, with Ki focused along one particular weapon and the fabled Dim Mak of an ancient Goblin master.
 

Primitive, thanks for the ideas they were very helpful.

The character in question is an elf monk and, in the end, we decided to allow him to use the elf familiarity weapons (longsword, rapier, and the bows) as his monk weapons. The rational is that, if any weapons are natural for him to use with his abilities, it should be the ones his culture is most familiar with (his monastic tradition is elven also).

We are trying this out for now, if it proves game breaking then we will revisit the idea...
 

I replaced the Monk's list of standard class abilities with fewer choices from a longer list-- they can take either most of the PHB Monk abilities, or they can take an entirely different selection.

Starting at 7th level or so, I allow Monks to designate a single weapon group as automatically receiving the benefits of the ki channel enhancement-- as a prerequisite to another ability of the same tier allowing them to treat that weapon group as "Monk weapons" for the purposes of Flurry and for the purposes of gaining Mastery.

I replaced Monk's unarmed damage progression with the Weapon Focus and Combat Martial Arts feat chains-- so instead of doing 2d10 20/x2 at 20th level, they do 1d4+4 19-20/x3 with +2 to hit.

I don't allow the normal Monk weapons group, and everything in it has been reassigned to other groups.

Githzerai are fond of selecting Heavy Blades for this ability, using either the Falchion (katana) or the Greatsword. Goblins lean toward the Spiked Chain. I can see Elven Monks favoring the Rapier-- and advancing as Bladesingers and Enlightened Fists.
 

A more simple way would be to allow monks to use all 'stave weapons' and 'blade weapons' for their MA kata. would apply all thier unarmed boni to attacks with kata weapons.

Staves: Quarter staff, short spear, spear, halbard

Blades: !
 

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