Monks & Weapons & Powers, oh my

[cignus_pfaccari]

Hrm. The discussion about thrown weapons makes me wonder, does a ki focus extend its benefit to thrown shuriken or daggers?

The text says only "weapons", not differentiating between melee and ranged, so I would assume it would. Thoughts?

Brad

 

[Kwalish Kid]

Hrm. The discussion about thrown weapons makes me wonder, does a ki focus extend its benefit to thrown shuriken or daggers?

Are those weapons?

 

[mysticknight232]

By definition, a Ki Focus can be anything you possess.

Ki Focuses​

A ki focus is an object that certain classes use as a
focus for their inner magical energy, known as their ki.
A ki focus might take the form of a training manual, a
scroll of ancient secrets, or a blunt training weapon.
To use a ki focus, you must first attune yourself to
it.​

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

OK, let's stop right there. <snip lots 'o' stuff>

Yeah...uh...no.

I'm just going to have to resign myself that I just simply don't dig the way they modeled the interaction between Monks & weapons. Understand, yes; like, not at all.

Shame, too- historically, they're one of my favorite classes, with or without weapons.

Still, most of my weapon-using monk builds can be simulated by the Avenger class with taking the multiclass Feat to get Flurry of Blows.

 

[mysticknight232]

I don't mean to keep coming back to this debate, but something just occured to me. You should be able to use a reach weapon for your Flurry of Powers triggered power. It's Melee 1 and is NOT an implement power...at least not according to the November 2009 debut PDF from Dragon (which is all i have access to here at work).

Can somebody confirm if this would work or not as it seems to me that you'd be able to target somebody 2 squares if you where proficient and wielding a reach weapon. I don't know if any weapons in the Spear group grant reach or not, but it seams like that would NOT stack with the Pointed Step Style Feat because the feat itself says your target can be up to 2 squares away from you.

Centered Flurry of Blows​

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Monk Feature​

Your fists become a blur as you follow up your initial attack
with another, shifting your foes’ positions to your advantage.​

At-Will​

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✦ Psionic
Free Action (Special) Melee 1​

Trigger:​

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You hit with an attack during your turn​

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One creature​

Level 11:​

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One or two creatures​

Level 21:​

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Each enemy adjacent to you​

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The target takes damage equal to 2 + your Wisdom
modifier, and you slide it 1 square to a square adjacent to
you, or 1 square in any direction if the target wasn’t targeted
by the triggering attack.​

Special: You can use this power only once per round.

 

[Artoomis]

I don't mean to keep coming back to this debate, but something just occured to me. You should be able to use a reach weapon for your Flurry of Powers triggered power. It's Melee 1 and is NOT an implement power...at least not according to the November 2009 debut PDF from Dragon (which is all i have access to here at work). ...

No.

Melee 1 means a range of 1 square no matter what weapon is used.

The Pointed Step Style feat will let you target one opponent up to 2 squares away with a Flurry, though - if you used a spear on the triggering attack.

 

[DracoSuave]

I don't mean to keep coming back to this debate, but something just occured to me. You should be able to use a reach weapon for your Flurry of Powers triggered power. It's Melee 1 and is NOT an implement power...at least not according to the November 2009 debut PDF from Dragon (which is all i have access to here at work).

Can somebody confirm if this would work or not as it seems to me that you'd be able to target somebody 2 squares if you where proficient and wielding a reach weapon. I don't know if any weapons in the Spear group grant reach or not, but it seams like that would NOT stack with the Pointed Step Style Feat because the feat itself says your target can be up to 2 squares away from you.

Draconote: recoded

At-Will - Psionic

Starting here, the keywords indicate that it has the psionic keyword. It has no other keywords, which means that there is no way an accessory can plug into this directly. So, any parameters it may have cannot be influenced by enhancement bonuses, powers that change the damage of the weapon, or anything similiar to that.

In order for any weapon OR implement to affect flurry of blows, it must explicitly mention that it affects a flurry of blows.

But, even if it DID have the weapon keyword....

Free Action (Special) Melee 1

...in the range section, we notice that there's no mention of weapon in there. A common misconception when dealing with powers is that 'Melee weapon' means that you get to use a melee weapon with it; this is not the case. What "Melee foo" means, is that it's a melee attack-type power with the range of foo. (PHB p56)

Foo is generally one of three things:

weapon- which means it's your reach + the reach of the weapon
touch- which means it's your reach without the reach of your weapon
a number- which means it's that number, and your reach nor the weapon reach have nothing to do with it.