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Upper_Krust said:
Has the Ultroloth been significantly boosted in other areas then?

Its MotP Ability Scores were:

S: 13, D: 16: C: 13, I: 16, W: 15, CH: 19
AC 21 (+3 Dex, +8 Natural), SR 25, Hp 71.

In the MM III the Ultroloth was bumped up by:

+100 Hp
Con +8

It also looks like they got some additional SLAs and a few feats associated with the bump in HD. Still not powerful enough for their mystique in my opinion, and they'd still likely get trounced in a straight up fight with any given Arcanaloth. However the 'loths were never about pure personal power (in crunch) being the path to power and control. But a 16 Int is a crying shame for the near pinnacle of 'lothyness. Blaugh.
 

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Huh!?!?

What the freak!

90% of these are new monsters, 5% are reprinted monsters from Dragon (much needed, since they're monsters from 3.0 and weren't updated) and the remaining 5% are reprinted monsters from other sources!

Barely any old monsters converted? What is WotC thinking?

Ok, they seem to have this whole philosophy of "We need to attract new generation of gamers so everything is new" so keep the new people happy but piss of the old generation...right?

But there is a really big flaw in that other than pissing off the old gamers...if the new generation of players truly are new, then they wouldn't have any clue (and I mean no clue at all) that the conversion of old material---is truly the conversion of old material...see the logic?

The new generation of WotC employees I have noticed are...rather inexperienced with all of this. They should've never fired the great oldies that dreadful day when over 100 employees were laid off.

In any case, I don't like this new MMIII...sure I'll buy it, but I truly enjoyed the last 2 MMs plus Monsters of Faerun due to the conversion of so many classics and familiar monsters of old.
 

Razz said:
What the freak!

90% of these are new monsters, 5% are reprinted monsters from Dragon (much needed, since they're monsters from 3.0 and weren't updated) and the remaining 5% are reprinted monsters from other sources!

Barely any old monsters converted? What is WotC thinking?
Oh noez!!!111
God forbid they (gasp!) make something new!!!! :eek:
*screams of terror and bloodshed in the background*
 

I'm curious concerning the difference between the Desert Giant from MM3 and the Sand Giant from MM2. (If someone can elaborate a bit on the Death and Eldritch giants too, that would be nice.)
 

How many monsters have something to do with the Far Realms/Xoriat?

How many other monsters other than the Ssvaklor have something to do with the Yuan-Ti?

How much better is a Flind than a Gnoll?
 


Hi Shemeska! :)

Shemeska said:
In the MM III the Ultroloth was bumped up by:

+100 Hp
Con +8

It also looks like they got some additional SLAs and a few feats associated with the bump in HD.

Well at least thats something.

Shemeska said:
Still not powerful enough for their mystique in my opinion, and they'd still likely get trounced in a straight up fight with any given Arcanaloth.

Yet an Ultroloth rules Daemonkind from the Khin Oin - Bring back Anthraxus WotC, this whole Mydianchlarus business is nonsensical. Instead of unleashing the likes of Bubonicus, Cholerix and Typhus upon us (absent from the Book of Vile Darkness for some ungodly reason) we get nothing.

Its clear the Daemons have been disinfected for 3rd Edition.

Shemeska said:
However the 'loths were never about pure personal power (in crunch) being the path to power and control.

So says 3rd Edition you mean, previously they could always at least hold their own amongst their peers.

Shemeska said:
But a 16 Int is a crying shame for the near pinnacle of 'lothyness. Blaugh.

Its a travesty.
 

Li Shenron said:
Oh no... please tell me this is a joke :)

Have I ever lied to you? (Don't answer that!) Seriously, they have a favored class of monk. Book's out in the car, so I can't quote exactly...
 


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