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Demons (CR):
  • Balor (19)
  • Barlgura (5)
  • Chasme (6)
  • Dretch (1/4)
  • Glabrezu (9)
  • Goristro (17)
  • Hezrou (8)
  • Manes (1/8)
  • Marilith (16)
  • Nalfeshnee (13)
  • Quasit (1)
  • Shadow Demon (4)
  • Vrock (6)
  • Yochlol (10)

Devils (CR):
  • Barbed Devil (5)
  • Bearded Devil (3)
  • Bone Devil (9)
  • Chain Devil (8)
  • Erinyes (12)
  • Horned Devil (11)
  • Ice Devil (14)
  • Imp (1)
  • Lemure (0)
  • Pit Fiend (20)
  • Spined Devil (2)

  • Thaumaturge.

This got me wondering... are there alternative ("planescape") names of various celestials or fiends mentioned (apart from yugoloths or gehreleths, that is), such as baatezu or tanar'ri, barbazu, osyluth, gelugon, etc.

Also, only somewhat related, it always surprises me to see barlgura written without a hyphen, and think of it as a typo... it should be bar-lgura :)

And does it mention Blood War?

I don't remember these questions being asked before... if they have, I apologise :)

Thanks.
 

This got me wondering... are there alternative ("planescape") names of various celestials or fiends mentioned (apart from yugoloths or gehreleths, that is), such as baatezu or tanar'ri, barbazu, osyluth, gelugon, etc.

There aren't other names for any of the fiends listed, though they are listed by type. Balors and goristros are Type 6, for example.

And does it mention Blood War?

No mentions of the Blood War that I see, though they talk about archdevils mustering forces and demons conscripting souls and the like.

I don't remember these questions being asked before... if they have, I apologise :)

I don't either. :)


You're welcome.

Thaumaturge.
 

Other than combat size, the MM says se the PH(B) for further info on sizes, which doesn't appear to have anything on creatures larger than medium.

Thaumaturge.

Hmm. From what I can see so far they appear to be aiming for something akin to 3e scale, but I'll just have to do some more research when I have the MM in hand to see if there are any major anomalies to that theory.

No mentions of the Blood War that I see, though they talk about archdevils mustering forces and demons conscripting souls and the like.

This is actually highly encouraging. The specific planar things that they left out seem to be things much more specifically connected to Planescape and 2e AD&D. This means we are highly likely to get a supplement including them, since the designers seemed to imply that Planescape is in--not just it's 1e predecessor info.
 

That would have really helped when they made the 5e tiefling exactly like the 4e tiefling.

There's a lot in 5e that I'm totally cool with and happy to see, but a few things like that just stick out as genuinely bizarre decisions when it would have been trifling to include 2e/3e tieflings in all their fiend-blooded diversity.

Wait for the DMG. I think a lot of questions will be answered when that shows up.
 

Wait for the DMG. I think a lot of questions will be answered when that shows up.

I believe they said they likely wouldn't cover planetouched in the MM and DMG, and so far it's seems they haven't in the first case.

What I do think they'll do is detail the cosmology a little bit more in the DMG though.
 

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