Monsters are more than their stats

[Fallen Seraph]

Not necessarily much more than calling a Succubus a witch or an evil nymph. There is no Blood-War-relationship anymore between Demons and Devils, after all.

Yeah, but I can't imagine a Devil would take being called a "slobbering, stupid, simple-minded freak of existence" lightly.

 

[DandD]

Well, a demon surely can be a "slobbering, stupid, simple-minded freak of existence", but so is anything from the Far Realm, or just a person born with some mental and physical deficits.
A "slobbering, stupid, simple-minded freak of existence" can be quite anything, even another Devil.
Also, Demons don't have to be necessarily stupid. Orcus, the Demon-Prince of Undead, comes to mind.

 

[pawsplay]

Well, a demon surely can be a "slobbering, stupid, simple-minded freak of existence", but so is anything from the Far Realm, or just a person born with some mental and physical deficits.
A "slobbering, stupid, simple-minded freak of existence" can be quite anything, even another Devil.

Or a message board poster.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

Well, a demon surely can be a "slobbering, stupid, simple-minded freak of existence", but so is anything from the Far Realm, or just a person born with some mental and physical deficits.
A "slobbering, stupid, simple-minded freak of existence" can be quite anything, even another Devil.
Also, Demons don't have to be necessarily stupid. Orcus, the Demon-Prince of Undead, comes to mind.

Oh I know, I am just imagining what an arrogant, uptight Devil would be thinking.

 

[WhatGravitas]

Also, Demons don't have to be necessarily stupid. Orcus, the Demon-Prince of Undead, comes to mind.

Still, I think demons and devils are rather hostile towards each other, as their goals are usually not very compatible - though I can imagine devils trying to harness the power of demons by tricking them into magical compulsions and manipulation.

Like the gelugon (ice devil).

Cheers, LT.

 

[Professor Phobos]

Am I the only one who doesn't see why a succubus in human form couldn't just seduce a king the old-fashioned way?

 

[Rex Blunder]

Nope.

The succubus: The first thing that springs to mind is, "Does the succubus REALLY need more out-of-combat controlling abilities?" The succubus can take on the form of a super-beautiful, sexually available woman. She needs what else to get the king's attention?

 

[Cadfan]

Am I the only one who doesn't see why a succubus in human form couldn't just seduce a king the old-fashioned way?

Only if she has ranks in "Seduce Monarch." Otherwise its impossible. If you let a beautiful woman seduce an elderly man without solid mechanical underpinnings listed in her stat block, you're a dirty anarchist. So sayeth the usual suspects.

 

[Mirtek]

Am I the only one who doesn't see why a succubus in human form couldn't just seduce a king the old-fashioned way?

But then why use a supernatural outsider at all? Just use some random good-looking mortal female.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

But then why use a supernatural outsider at all? Just use some random good-looking mortal female.

Since Succubus' are masters of the art of seduction and know exactly how to act to get what they want. To a degree far exceeding a normal person. Also, if you want a plot-line dealing with Devils a random good-looking mortal female won't quite work.