More lay-offs at WOTC! [Merged]

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There's a bigger picture here, IMHO...

Sure, WOTC/HASBRO is a corporation and has to bladdy, blah blah. Look, the reason they lay off people is apparent: they want more money. Is it good business to make more money? Yes, no question. Is their decision going to make them more money? In the very short term, yes. But for who and at what cost?

The who: the top brass. Stockholders won't see more than a couple of cents per share. The result: less profit a year from now resulting in more layoffs and eventually the dissolution/sell off of a crippled company. This is not a guess. This is three years of history repeating itself over and over. The definition of insanity is 'doing something over and over again and expecting a different result each time.' Insanity is not good business.

Is keeping people on who don't produce good business? No. But why fire them and produce nothing when you can encourage them to create something new? Magic isn't an age old property, it was created when RPG's were on the downturn. Why can't these world class game designers be utilized to do something like that? Just because Skip and others have done D&D for the majority of their careers doesn't mean they're incapable of any other game design. And isn't HASBRO a company that sells 'games?' Interesting board games are very popular, and the only reason the company is losing money on them is the fact that they refuse to sell anything new, prefering to 're-envision' old concepts to death. As asked before, how many different Monopoly sets do you need? Again, repetition = insanity = bad business.

And let's look at the big picture. Laying off hundreds, and in some companies cases, thousands of employees creates a downturn in spending which prolongs recession, which creates layoffs, which creates a downturn in spending, which prolongs recession, which...

The point? The business cycle goes up and down naturally. The current business practices of major corporations throw it all out of whack. While the fed reduces interest rates to compensate for a recession, major corporations are making it worse by laying off almost everyone who actually does any work and keeping executive dead weight. All the corporations in question need to do is make a little less profit for one year by resisting massive, needless layoffs, and they can speed up economic recovery leading to more profit in the future. It's called balancing out the business cycle. But no, it's more important to make everything you can now. The long term is too far away, think quarterly, think short-term. As a result corporations are dominated by short sightedness.

It's a simple equation: people no spend, business no make money. I'm a graphic Designer, out of work for 7 months now. WOTC lays of close to the entirety of their Graphic design department. How less likely am I to get a job now? I'm not spending money on their products anymore because I have no money. Why did WOTC lay off those people? Because they're making less money. Rather circular, don't you think.

I mention all of this here because I can't stand someone feeding me a line of bullsh*t like the steaming pile of manure that is the WOTC press release. Comments like 'We're doing it for long term growth,' piss me off. As already pointed out, and as any one with a lick of common sense knows, that's complete and utter crap. And not even convincing crap. It smacks of 'talkin' to da rubes,' like we're too retarded to know the truth of the matter, to see the real world.

Fact is, these decisions are NOT good business. If they were, then HASBRO wouldn't be in the slump it's been in for the past decade. They bought WOTC to get Pokemon and Magic to improve their diminishing market share, applied the same screwed up business principles to it, and sunk it down with them. Not only are they sinking WOTC, but they, along with a lot of other corporations, are also sinking the US economy as well, in the name of personal profit. That should be the major concern for most of you, who like me, are unable to get a job, especially if we have experience and talent that make us worth more than a poverty line paycheck.

So to all of you that say, 'that's business/the real world, so live with it,' I say you are the ones needing to take the blinders off. It's not about just D&D or WOTC, it's about everything around you that's affected by the economy. An economy being run into the ground in ACTUALITY by greedy, greedy men who would watch an entire nation starve before they gave up a million dollars from their billion dollar accounts. Real men, who we see on the news all the time nowadays. who actually laugh, on camera, at the Senate when being dressed down for their highly unethical business practices. I actually saw the ex-CEO for Worldcom do this as the nation watched, as if he were laughing at all of us. Probably because he knew that he would get a light sentence in some cushy federal pen and get out in a few years with more money than 3 third world nations combined...
 

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You have to be kidding me

Do you honestly believe that there is a supp that Wotc could produce that would enlarge the market to any appreciable degree. You have little sense of corporate history. It is in point of fact the conservative strategy that wins out 9/10. That counter-corporate culture bs is a sentimental pipe dream, especially in this case where we have a niche hobby that has remained rather constant over the long haul and shows no signs of breaking out. Wotc simply exploited demand more efficiently and whatever aggregate growth resulted from d20/DND 3rd has probably been brought squeezed to its utmost. When you can't raise gross revenue, the rational descision is structural reform to cut costs and thus raise profits. To expect anything more is laughable.
 

And on the Macro

Your macroeconomic analysis is also trite, if technically accurate, because it has not real policy ramifications. You are talking about a very wide, diverse labor market in which any given entity has a miniscule effect on demand. You expect Wotc to take a policy step on their own initiative that would probably hurt them for some wider public benefit that they would be neglibible. Please grasp the concept of game theory and stop the sentiment.
 

Re: ENWORLD CAUSES LAYOFFS

Dire_Groundhog said:
Seeing as how the WOTC product line up is no longer featured on the right side of the news page, it seems obvious that this has affected sales and is the cause of the layoffs.

:D I doubt it. Look up the statistics. The number of people on the net that actually go out and buy a product is relatively small. It factors very little into a company's overall sales.

As big as we like to think the internet is, it really is a lot smaller than it appears....or something like that. :D
 
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The Sigil said:

Bean-counter or no, for the love of mud, Anthony, could you please push the rest of the SRD through the "approval" process so that we can end the speculation of "WotC could pull back the stuff in the 'gentlemens' agreement' and screw other d20 publishers?"

;)

--The Sigil

I know we have been saying "soon" for a while now but this time I can say we have a person devoted to it. So this time - soon means real soon. Keep checking, spells should go up anytime now.

AV
 


Levekius said:


As for pages and pages of errata, on planet earth, this is considered *bad*. I'm glad that from wherever you are coming from, books full of gaffes are considered a good thing.

All I can say about this is that the bigger the product (that is the more pages it has) the more likely there will be mistakes. There is not and never will be a product released that doesnt need errata (be it mistakes, typos, or whatever). It doesnt matter how many people look it over, someone is gonna miss something. It just happens. People make mistakes.
 


Grazzt said:


All I can say about this is that the bigger the product (that is the more pages it has) the more likely there will be mistakes. There is not and never will be a product released that doesnt need errata (be it mistakes, typos, or whatever). It doesnt matter how many people look it over, someone is gonna miss something. It just happens. People make mistakes.

Yeah, you're right. Y'know, it's almost like WotC would've been better off not releasing errata - in other words, doing the same thing as most game publishers: ignoring it. It's as if people think that just because a company doesn't release errata, there isn't any.
 

Zulkir said:


Hey now, remember - when you use the word beancounter you have to use the name Anthony Valterra in the same sentence. We are not faceless. We have families, and are gamers, and are raising kids, go to cons and last week went to burning man. Real people here.

AV:D

True enough, Anthony. I've seen you around the boards enough to see that you love the game as well. Nothing personal was being directed toward you. I do get the feeling ,however, that many decisions have been made since Hasbro took over that boost short term profits at the expense of the long term health of the game. In the last year or so, WOTC has lost almost all of the designers that made D&D successful. Though there are still some good people like Bruce Cordell left in R&D, the mass carnage in the department doesn't seem to bode well for future creative endeavours. I guess my initial thought was that only a beancounter corporate type with no love of the game would do something like that. I wasn't saying that all corporate types were like that. While you may not be one of those, I'm sure that there are enough of them in WOTC/Hasbro to validate my opinion.

Either that, or I'm just an idiot :p We all know the saying about opinions on the internet after all... :D
 

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