My 'Boys were Alive and Kicking - SD is out - GB down - NY for the win!!!

[kenobi65]

If that's the only brainwashing you got out of Madison, count yourself lucky.

LOL. Sounds like he was a kid at the time, and may not have spent much (if any) time on campus.

I spent 6 years there, getting my bachelor's degree, then my master's. And, by the end, I was ready to go somewhere else, so I could experience reality.

 

[WhimsyTheFae]

LOL. Sounds like he was a kid at the time, and may not have spent much (if any) time on campus.

I spent 6 years there, getting my bachelor's degree, then my master's. And, by the end, I was ready to go somewhere else, so I could experience reality.

Get your reality out of my peanut-butter, you illinoyance. It's only your Packers fandom that keeps you above the riff-raff.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

You sir, I like.

I like him too.

Thank you for going into as much detail as you did. It was interesting and clarified some things I wasn't aware of - I had simply assumed that the signals they were trying to intercept were offensive, for instance, because as a casual watcher the defensive role seemed more reactive.

In the overall, it would be nice to see the two teams just play the [censored] game on the field, without the rediculous James Bond sideline games (the idea that so many coaches seem to operate under an assumption that there could be a lip reader with binoculars and a headset to the opposing coach out there and they should cover their mouth while calling plays just in case is totally surreal and annoying to me.) Going the extra mile and breaking the explicit rules to do it is that much more disapointing, and I can see your point about it tainting the season for them. (Though not to the extent that some folks felt Barry Bonds' home run record was tainted by steroid use - the actual effect of the violation is just so much more ambiguous.) While I am simply not the type to be a sports fan, I tend to have more tolerance for the Hubby's fanhood when I feel that a team has more going for them then the ability to score points.

My Fan of None perspective is that it would still appeal to my sense of "streaks and improbable outcomes are fun" to see the Pats go all the way, but the "mocking foaming Pats haters" enjoyment may go down. And the "being happy that the Hubby is happy" aspect can be fulfilled by the Packers as well.

 

[kenobi65]

Get your reality out of my peanut-butter, you illinoyance. It's only your Packers fandom that keeps you above the riff-raff.

Hey, I grew up in Green Bay! I only live down here in Flatland because this is where the jobs are. And, one of these days, I'm going to pack up (pun not intended) and move back north across the Cheddar Curtain, back to the promised land.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

Hey, I grew up in Green Bay! I only live down here in Flatland because this is where the jobs are. And, one of these days, I'm going to pack up (pun not intended) and move back north across the Cheddar Curtain, back to the promised land.

I think the Packers are a neat team because of their public ownership. When the Red Sox were up for sale a few years ago, I advocated for Boston or the state to buy them - there was so much public investment in the team's infrastructure at the time, why not just go all the way and make it a real investment instead of hoping for a trickle back?

 

[billd91]

On top of that, not only are they 2 wins away from having the greatest single season and being the greatest team in NFL history but also in all sports. Period.

Well, when they manage to get another NINE league championships to match the Packers record of TWELVE, then we'll consider them a candidate for the greatest team in NFL history.

 

[kenobi65]

I think the Packers are a neat team because of their public ownership.

I own a share of Packers stock; I bought it 6 or 7 years ago, when they had a stock sale to raise money for the reconstruction of Lambeau Field.

It's non-dividend-paying, and it's fundamentally only transferrable to next-of-kin (the Packers retain the first rights to buy the stock if I want to sell it).

I look at it as a $250 souvenir, and the right to get mad at "my employees" when they make stupid plays ("Dammit, Brett, think before you throw!!").

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Well, when they manage to get another NINE league championships to match the Packers record of TWELVE, then we'll consider them a candidate for the greatest team in NFL history.

The players on that team must have been a little long in the tooth, winning 12 championships between 1929 and the present. That is quite a feat, I'll admit.

Or were you referring to a franchise record?

Cause that's yet another conversation altogether.

 

[GlassJaw]

Well, when they manage to get another NINE league championships to match the Packers record of TWELVE, then we'll consider them a candidate for the greatest team in NFL history.

They are already a candidate for greatest team in NFL history, along with the 72 Dolphins, Steelers of the 70's, Niners of the 80's, Cowboys of the 90's, etc.

It's interesting that when comparing greatest NFL teams or dynasties, pre-Superbowl teams are usually not included in the discussion. That's not my opinion, just stating what most "analysts" include in their comparisons.

Most wouldn't consider that to be the "modern era" of football. Same with pre-Babe Ruth baseball. It's commonly understood that Babe Ruth ushered in a new style of play in baseball. You could argue that entirely different games and were played before then and is like comparing apples to oranges, even though they are within the same sport.

 

[Goldmoon]

Indeed...I haven't seen this much venom against a team in a long while.

Thats because never before has a team been blatently caught cheating like this before. Not to mention how light they got off.
Also, call me a crazy whacko nutjob but I honestly think that the Patcheats had help from the league in their perfect season so the league could more easily dismiss the cheating problem and make itself look better. Now, I'm a gal who loves her football but this whole thing has really turned me off from the NFL. I've lost confidence in the leagues integrity as a whole and I'm truly dissappointed in they way the whole thing was handled.