D&D 5E My Crazy Theory about 2015 5e

[Kramodlog]

Hasbro can worry about that. I'm just having fun gaming on Wed nights with 5e.

Sure. Fans can also worry about it. Nothing is preventing them from doing that. Especially when they have it at heart and do not want 6e just yet or have D&D shelved. Fans are weird like that.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

True

 

[Coredump]

Because you can't have 9 buffs going while flying?

I find the concentration mechanic... annoying. But only because I do want to have Bless and Hunter's Mark and etc all going at once. I also realize, however, that the game is better this way, and I am getting used to it.


The only downside, is I now use the one best spell over and over, since I can only use one at a time, the others get no Paladin love....

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

I find the concentration mechanic... annoying. But only because I do want to have Bless and Hunter's Mark and etc all going at once. I also realize, however, that the game is better this way, and I am getting used to it.


The only downside, is I now use the one best spell over and over, since I can only use one at a time, the others get no Paladin love....

Removing the need and ability for stacking tons of buffs was a great design decision IMO. Death to the stacking mods!

 

[Coredump]

I agree, but
you need to put it in cntext with the rest of the news we've been getting. Individually, all that news could mean a lot of things, but put it all together and you get a different picture.

Take the Dungeonscape interview where one of the guys over there said WotC/Hasbro was technophobic. It sounded a bit like someone had a score to settle. Flash foward a few weeks and we have an interview from the Obsidian guy saying it is hard to deal with WotC/Hasbro. Online initiatives from fans get cease and desist letters. There are still no ebooks/PDFs on the way for 5e and no official announcement on the matter. The D&D website (not just the forums) is craptacular. All these put together point towards a compagny that doesn't know what to do with computers and D&D. Or doesn't trust technology. Or doesn't take it seriously when it comes to its RPG. Or all of the above. Or something else.

Take the layoffs. Add the cancelled book. The really small staff. The lack of announced products after PoA. No official OGL announcement. Licensing is super important to the vitality of the brand, yet two tech compagnies report having problems when it comes to licensing products. There is a vague unofficial desire to release PDFs, but not much more. Put together, these point toward a compagny that is improvising with it brand. It doesn't know how to handle it, moneytize it.

Maybe I'm wrong, but post-core release, the news for D&D hasn't been very positive. Maybe March will be better. April will probably be a mix bag. PoA will come out. Hopefully it won't be bad like HotDQ. Put iCv2 will release its info on the first quarter of 2015. With no new release since december 9th, I suspect D&D will have gone down a bit.

Then what will happen? Announcing a product for GenCon? More likely that a product will be announced at GenCon. Probably for november 2015. Maybe for 2016. Maybe this is a good strategy for D&D. I do not think so.

Oh get over yourself... unless you want to post your resume showing how you are well steeped in the inner workings of corprations and are privy to the WotC business model... you are just blowing smoke.

The model they appear to be using is contracting out a lot of work, so *of course* they don't need as many editors, they don't have as much to edit. Guess what, they are also buying less monster artwork... OH NOES!!

I am shocked SHOCKED I TELL YOU, that two companies that were unable to get a liscense with WotC are talking smack... maybe its because Obsidian now works with a competitor?? Of course, based on Obsidians recent track record, WotC may have good reason to not want to be associated with them.

As for the "cancelled" project.. companies have ideas all the time, and sometimes they even start developing them to see if they are a good idea. You could just as easily (and just as baselessly) praise WotC for not being stuck in a rut and recognizing that they shouldn't move forward with that item. But instead you insist the sky is falling.

Have you even considered that one of the delays for pdfs is they want to give the LGS a bit more of a head start in selling books?
Or perhaps they are trying to make more than 'just' a pdf.... or maybe just trying to figure out the piracy issues. But no, they must just be dazed and confused....


WIth your magical ability to know what is going on inside companies that you have no inside knowledge bodes well for your abilty to make millions in the stock market.... good for you....

 

[Coredump]

Removing the need and ability for stacking tons of buffs was a great design decision IMO. Death to the stacking mods!

If I wasn't clear... I agree. Its just a matter of getting used to the new reality. (even a better reality can take some getting used to...)

 

[billd91]

I find the concentration mechanic... annoying. But only because I do want to have Bless and Hunter's Mark and etc all going at once.

If you've got the right party composition, like a cleric and a ranger together, you can certainly get that combination going. It's just that the hunter's mark comes from the ranger while the bless comes from the cleric.

 

[Henry]

Have you even considered that one of the delays for pdfs is they want to give the LGS a bit more of a head start in selling books?

I'd call six months more than enough of a headstart.

I for one would LOVE to buy more product from WotC - but apart from two mega-adventures so far that jibe in the face of their settings, and a DM screen that has been VERY poorly reviewed, I've bought literally three times as much in the past eight months from Paizo as I have from WotC (half of it PDFs). I hope their strategy is working for them because I'm really not fathoming it - I'm playing a game I like LESS than theirs because I am well supported with product and can find players more readily for it.

 

[Kramodlog]

Oh get over yourself... unless you want to post your resume showing how you are well steeped in the inner workings of corprations and are privy to the WotC business model... you are just blowing smoke.

Nope. Just someone who is a bit smart and is not deluded about D&D. There are lots of sign that show that D&D's digital presence is a mess. I named them already. It doesn't seem like you adress any of them. Just personal attacks. It must mean you're right.

Fanboys will rush to defend aggressively anyone who didn't drink the kool-aid. Just check the thread about the critic the guy from Obsidien did. A mass zerging to defend their beloved... WotC/Hasbro?

The model they appear to be using is contracting out a lot of work, so *of course* they don't need as many editors, they don't have as much to edit.

They need so much less edits that they have to cancel a 300 page splatbook just two weeks after they release the cover art for that book.

I am shocked SHOCKED I TELL YOU, that two companies that were unable to get a liscense with WotC are talking smack... maybe its because Obsidian now works with a competitor?? Of course, based on Obsidians recent track record, WotC may have good reason to not want to be associated with them.

Cause the opposite isn't possible.

As for the "cancelled" project.. companies have ideas all the time, and sometimes they even start developing them to see if they are a good idea. You could just as easily (and just as baselessly) praise WotC for not being stuck in a rut and recognizing that they shouldn't move forward with that item. But instead you insist the sky is falling.

It is about being an adult who is not blinded by brand loyalty. It doesn't look good for the future. It is also about knowing the history of D&D. Products cancelled happened in the late 90s when TSR was in financial troubles. It happened again when 4e was in trouble. Some people see paterns. Paterns do not necessarely mean there is something there. It just means you look at the paterns and do not make up excuses for what is plainly there.

Have you even considered that one of the delays for pdfs is they want to give the LGS a bit more of a head start in selling books?

I've heard that excuse a few times. It is bad business nowadays. The money isn't in core books. It is in the other books you buy. The core books just explain to you how to play the game. Some people just do not buy physical books anymore. Not pratical or too expensive. Some want physical and digital support. Not releasing ebooks is just loosing these clients when the game is hot and there is lots of word of mouth.

Or perhaps they are trying to make more than 'just' a pdf....

Transformers!? Tranformers, core books in disguise!

or maybe just trying to figure out the piracy issues.

They won't.

[quot]But no, they must just be dazed and confused....[/quote]Not what I said. Try again, champ.

WIth your magical ability

Being informed, making links between info and seeing paterns is magic now? I'm a sorcerer, mom!

to know what is going on inside companies that you have no inside knowledge bodes well for your abilty to make millions in the stock market.... good for you....

I actually made some decent cash in the stock market. As for D&D, just look at the signs. A lot of us saw the end of 3.5, the end of 4e, the rise of Pathfinder. Sure, there were proud defenders of D&D, cause we must hate D&D if we are worried or critical of it, but in the end we were right. Is it the case here? We shall see. Anyone can bewrong. But hey, don't say you weren't warn. Cause really, a lot of this is jsut plain out there. And by that I mean ENworld.

 

[GX.Sigma]

I agree, but
you need to put it in cntext with the rest of the news we've been getting. Individually, all that news could mean a lot of things, but put it all together and you get a different picture.

Take the Dungeonscape interview where one of the guys over there said WotC/Hasbro was technophobic. It sounded a bit like someone had a score to settle. Flash foward a few weeks and we have an interview from the Obsidian guy saying it is hard to deal with WotC/Hasbro. Online initiatives from fans get cease and desist letters. There are still no ebooks/PDFs on the way for 5e and no official announcement on the matter. The D&D website (not just the forums) is craptacular. All these put together point towards a compagny that doesn't know what to do with computers and D&D. Or doesn't trust technology. Or doesn't take it seriously when it comes to its RPG. Or all of the above. Or something else.

Take the layoffs. Add the cancelled book. The really small staff. The lack of announced products after PoA. No official OGL announcement. Licensing is super important to the vitality of the brand, yet two tech compagnies report having problems when it comes to licensing products. There is a vague unofficial desire to release PDFs, but not much more. Put together, these point toward a compagny that is improvising with it brand. It doesn't know how to handle it, moneytize it.

Maybe I'm wrong, but post-core release, the news for D&D hasn't been very positive. Maybe March will be better. April will probably be a mix bag. PoA will come out. Hopefully it won't be bad like HotDQ. Put iCv2 will release its info on the first quarter of 2015. With no new release since december 9th, I suspect D&D will have gone down a bit.

Then what will happen? Announcing a product for GenCon? More likely that a product will be announced at GenCon. Probably for november 2015. Maybe for 2016. Maybe this is a good strategy for D&D. I do not think so.

Maybe the "technophobic" WotC licensing guy got fired recently. They're looking for applicants for that position, right?