My freinds post: How High School Community Hour and d20 dont mix

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Miyazawa Mizaki

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My freind who's roommate 'grounded' them from the interweb after pasting this to the WotC d20 modern message board asked me to copy it and post it here"

"It may take a bit of reading to get to the point its actually about the game but it is in here.

Ok I'm in my last year of high school. In my Province you need 40 hour of the crap to get your diploma. I origonally told my schools guidence place that it was agenst my religon to help others unworth of my help and the old staff back in grade 9 bought it but the new staff that started this year Just informed me, with only a few weeks left of school it didnt hold up under the new system. After a week of fighting with them I came up with the idea of GMing a game of d20 modern for some brats and they said no because they can only award hours for do charity for organizations the school gets funds from (currupt ****tards!) so I fought for another few days and they gave in (because they would hate to see a 92.7 average student not pass becuase of something like this and they dug deep enouph and found out I could do it if it was with a group of kids at this praticular community center way out of my 4 bus tranfers way (I cant take my Van cause my sister still needs it).

Ok so I'm informed that I will 12 people from ages 13-16 to GM, luckily a guy at the center knows the game and with his help I managed to convice the incharges to let me devide them into 2 groups of 6.

I then look back into my settings books from when I was that age (I was 16 till last year but still) and pick out a setting me and my freinds had some real fun with. I started it when I was 14 and we played in it till i was 15 so I thought it was 'safe'.

Ok so when the first game starts I have the kids choose between about 9 premade level 1 characters character. So far things go well a exept a very sheltered 13 year old didnt know what 'drag' was but whatever. Group seemed easy to control because they stopped laughing when I told them to.

Party: Strong x3, Fast x1, Dedicated x1, Smart x1

Ok so they are part of a dept. 7 like organization dealing with Occult stuff. Things go well. We have alot of action vs. what the setting was designed for it was fun, no one died in combat which is good, nice mix of sword and gun fighting vs. 'those damned teenaged magic users who are up to no good' (I made feats that give minor spellcasting/psionic abilites).

Ok so its 4 hours into the game and they follow the clues to the right inner city basment under a club the teens are using as a base, vs. the other one they burst into and shot up (it was a crack den so they got away with it).

Well after the first battle with them they take a loose but I fudge to give the player 0 HP so they would be stable till they could be healed. They start exploring the place and got to a washroom....this is where the problems started: they find a girl, with injuries, no cloths on, chained to a urinle, tied into a postion that well....I would not want to be caught in if you catch my drift. I seriously forgot I had put that in before I realized what I was reading.

The players help her but 2 of the younger ones seem all 'takeadvantageofhery' and one little kid (who said he was 13 to join but was tall and 11) got all sick. He seems to get better and the adventure ends after 8 hour so I'm on the road to my hours completion.

Well then I'm called about it but my sister (twin) answers the phone and says shes me (our freinds can see through it, strangers can't). Well first she answers saying, before she even says its me "What is it? Leave me alone! I have a
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and cant get it out!" (the sad part is this is a true statement, I kid you not and am 100% serious). When they tell "me" what the problem was it seems the kid who got upset told his parents and luckily my sister explained it was suposed to be a moral dession for them to do the right thing and help the girl but they failed it. Then she was even stupider and said 'Well we played it that way at their ages and if stupid north american brats cant handle the higher level of maturity and ability to deal with things that japanese kids have then its their own friggin fault not (an luckily) my sisters!" thus revealing the fact it was not me, which helped me to get into as much trouble.

When I get home she tells me and I call them back. I fix things as best I could but they said that if I keep GMing for hours I have to pritty much lower it to PG-13 stuff and have to be check in on every 10 minutes, which will be a nightmare for me.It may take a bit of reading to get to the point its actually about the game but it is in here.

When I get home she tells me and I call them back. I fix things as best I could but they said that if I keep GMing for hours I have to pritty much lower it to PG-13 stuff and have to be check in on every 10 minutes, which will be a nightmare for me."
 

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Okay. :\

Now explain to me again how this was a problem with high school community hour and d20, I appear to have missed it.
 

The idiots running the community center dont give 'kids' enouph credit to beable to deal with stuff I guess. I just posted it, I didnt write it.
 

What I'm more interested in is why you or your 'friend' would consider a d20 posting board a suitable site to mention this.
 

Is this serious, or just a troll?

This might be a fine game for a group of older teenagers in a private environment who consensually agree that this is the sort of game they want to play. I ran some pretty twisted stuff for my friends as a kid too. But... Crack dens? Torture/rape scenarios? For a game being run for 13 year olds in an environment that is supposed to be providing them a positive experience. The fact that the game should have been run PG-13 (if not only a very strong G) should have been obvious from word one.

This sounds like a 17 year old who may know plenty about mature subject matter but isn't mature/responsible enough to handle running a game for children. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near that center, supervised or otherwise.
 




Okay, for a community service project someone is running a d20 Modern game at a community center for kids age 13 to 16, and they run a game about rape and crack houses?!?!?

Now, I can see how the administration of the community center and the parents of the kids would be upset, and frankly they have a right to be.

If you're going to run a d20 Modern game for kids, especially when you're gaming in a public venue and you're doing this ostensibly as community service, you need to act like it's a community service. It's just common sense to tone it down to a "PG-13" level, and "PG" would be just fine.

Look at the free adventures on the WotC site, they are a good set of adventures for a wide variety of levels, any of which I'd be very comfortable running in the environment you listed.

As an example, campaigns where the PC's are policemen/detectives solving crimes is a good way to have elements of crime and violence come up in the game, but it puts the PC's clearly on the law-abiding side of Good. It lets you have car chases and shootouts, and it gives the GM a nice in-game way of punishing bad decisions and showing PC's consequences of their actions (police review boards, possibly even criminal charges for characters who go way out of line).

For a game with underage players, run it with the standard that you wouldn't say or do anything you wouldn't say or do if their mother was standing right there. Nice safe rule of thumb, like the "Eric's Grandma" rule on this baord.
 

I don't get it...

First off...I'm not seeing how this is relevant to this site in the slightest, other than it involved ( very loosely ) an RPG...

Second, is this the level of spelling that is considered acceptable to graduate in Ontario? I count 24 errors ( and some of them are multiple, so it's not bad typing, just bad spelling ). It's not "freind" , it's "friend"..."I before E, except after C...etc". If this is considered acceptable to graduate, I think a curriculum change is in order up north.

This has to be a troll...long winded or not. The "sister" part is a dead giveaway. Plus, who in their right mind would DM a game of this nature to a group of children this age?

So, it's either a troll, or a moron...either way, Miyazawa Mizaki...if you wrote it, I would suggest buying a dictionary. If your friend wrote it, buy one for him.

Z.
 

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