doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I’m not going to keep litigating this. Several other people understood what they were saying, but it is what it is.Do you not see how that is my entire point? Their post was about halflings. Their post then went out of their way to set up a dichotomy. If you are against halflings, you are against all of those traits they listed. You in their own words, only see the point in playing edgelords and anime characters. Again, their EXACT words stated this unequivocally.
Their words stated that if you don’t see the value in a race that is just those traits, nothing more complex or grand or dark or world-shaking, it comes across as not valuing those traits.
As they should be.Right now, they are not only in the PHB, but they are under the "common races" section in the PHB.
Yes.In the future should they still be listed like that?
No.Or would it make more sense to have them in a later release, and move popular races like goblins and gnomes up?
He represents part of what halflings are. I could also use Samwise in the Orc tower when he is saving Frodo.Using Merry as an example of what Hobbits are is very misleading, because no other hobbit is like him.
A race isn’t a character. Besides, people have already pointed out some easy flaws you can play with you want that.Is that truly a flawed premise? If I wrote a character in a novel who had no flaws... did I write a good character? No.
For you, perhaps. Not for people who enjoy halflings as they are. And you can just use gnomes. No one is being deprived of anything, here.Which again, that is hard to work with. That is hard to make into anything that a player can explore or dig their teeth into.
For me, I find the same is true of the halfling.I can play that simple character with anything. But, when I build out the world. When I look to "who are elves in the wider world" I have a lot to pull on.
My point, again, because I know things can get lost in these novels we are writing back and forth, is that that place is good. It is good that a “core” race (insofar as that concept even matters) is just folks.I can look to their origins, their religion, their place in the larger world and see how they affect it. With haflings... you can't. They don't have an origin. They don't have a place in the world other than "they live in small communities near humans".
Here’s my question, then.
If Brandobaris (my favorite halfling god) and Yondalla and all the other FR hin deities had a solid writeup in 5e, with things like what kind of PCs might represent different priests and knights and other servants of their gods, and the River halflings of 4e (who are mentioned in the 5e PHB) had a little more prominence, and there were some notes in some subclasses about how this or that tradition started with halflings, would that be enough?
Because if not, I think maybe this really is just a case of you not liking halflings and trying to spin it into something bigger than that.
But regardless, it remains a good thing that a core race is just folks.