Nature's Warrior PrC Choices

[Wednesday Boy]

The ability to turn into water and move freely used to be pretty popular, but MIC has made short teleportation dirt cheap.

Frankly, of those options only Armor and Wings seem remotely relevant. An additional 3 damage per hit is not going to make or break you either way by the time you have several levels in a PrC.

The thing that steered me away from the Water's Flow is that you can only use it if you can take an Elemental form, which won't happen until 16th level.

That was my hunch on the DR3 and +3 dmg, that they wouldn't make much difference at higher levels. We're 8th level now and I've never played past 9th, so while DR3 and +3 dmg sound pretty impressive, at high levels maybe they become inconsequential.

The Robe of Clouds, which gives you Concealment when in air elemental form sounded pretty good but again, that wouldn't be until 16th level.

 

[blargney the second]

What's your PC like right now? Feats, levels, stats, etc.

 

[Wednesday Boy]

He's an elf, Druid6/Nature's Warrior2. Feats: Track, Leadership (Giant Owl cohort) and Spontaneous Healer. I don't have my character sheet with me but my attributes are Wis>Dex>Int>Str>Con>Cha.

 

[blargney the second]

If your Str is that low, then the +3 damage option is very good.
-blarg

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

All right, I was trying to resist, but I have to ask...if you spend so much time shapeshifted, why hasn't the Warshaper PrC (in the exact same book) appealed to you? You gain no caster levels, but...dear god... I don't know what exactly the PH2 variant does and doesn't count for, but if your DM allowed it to count for entering Nature's Warrior, I don't see why he wouldn't allow entry into that one (other than on the grounds of it being sickeningly overpowered).

 

[VanRichten]

Because most DM's consider the Warshaper a severely overpowered prestige class for its requirements.

Considering you at 1st level become immune to critical hits and stunning is enough. But later when you get a +4 to Strength and Con permanently and as an unnamed bonus I can tell you added to any druid that is way overpowered.

 

[Nifft]

Because most DM's consider the Warshaper a severely overpowered prestige class for its requirements.

We do?

I consider the loss of shapechange to be pretty significant. Druid spellcasting is strong; giving it up is a big deal.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Jack Simth]

Because most DM's consider the Warshaper a severely overpowered prestige class for its requirements.

Considering you at 1st level become immune to critical hits and stunning is enough. But later when you get a +4 to Strength and Con permanently and as an unnamed bonus I can tell you added to any druid that is way overpowered.

About the only time it's broken is when you're low level, getting in by way of something like a Changling Barbarian-4, or when you're running a low/no magic campaign where there aren't any primary spellcasters to worry about.

Getting in as a Druid-5, it's still a very strong PrC, but it doesn't progress wildshape uses, it doesn't progress spellcasting, and so on - it just amplifies your current wildshape ... although I haven't read up on the shifter variant - is that at-will from the get go?

 

[Nifft]

although I haven't read up on the shifter variant - is that at-will from the get go?

Yes, it's at-will, but it's more like Alternate Form than Wild Shape, so it's questionable if Warshaper is legal.

Cheers, -- N

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Yes, it's at-will, but it's more like Alternate Form than Wild Shape, so it's questionable if Warshaper is legal.

Cheers, -- N

Yes, but AFAIK, the latest round of Wildshape rules basically calls it "like alternate form, except for these differences...", so an argument could be made to let the PH2 version count, too. Especially since the DM was ok with it for Nature's Warrior.