Need San Francisco gaming info

Here's some tips from a Gamer who's lived in SF for almost 10 years:

1.) Gamescape is THE game store. The only store that beats it is the Compleat Strategist in NYC. The people who work there are very nice and really know games. From Union Square, the easiest way to get there is to take either the 7, 71, 71L, or 6 from Market street to the corner of Haight and Divisidero. From there, walk a block and a half north. It's on the left hand side of the street, 2 doors down from Comix Experience (also worth a visit).

2.) If you continue up Haight Street (warining: it's a steep hill) for a few more blocks, you wind up in Haight-Ashbury which is filled with all sorts of cool, hipster shops that you probably won't find in Miami. There's still a bit of the Hippy vibe, but that's the lame part. In particular, Amobea Records (Haight and Stanyan) is the biggest used music store in the nation (it used to be a bowling alley). They have a huge selection of CDs and vinyl. And if you continue walking, you will wind up in Golden Gate Park which, on a nice day, is just great. You might find that Haight Street/GG Park is much nicer than a day spent at Fisherman's wharf.

3.) Yeah, there are some extremely expensive resturants in SF, but there's also a lot of excellent cheap "hole in the walls". Don't be afraid to just try a random place. The average mom and pop resturant in SF is usually pretty darn good. There's never a need to resort to fast food in SF.

I'm not sure if they have this in Miami, but you might want to try a DimSum brunch. My East Coast relatives always insist on it everytime they visit.

Some of my favorite resturants in SF:

Yak Sing or Tong Kiang: both have very good Dim Sum. You might find cheaper/better in Chinatown, but then again, you might not. Both these places are spotlessly clean and have a huge selections. This is where I take the family.

Henry's Hunan: Excellent SPICY Hunan food. Try the smoked ham dishes. It's just south of Market street, walking distance to Union Square.

Brandy Ho's: Another good Hunan place between North Beach and Chinatown.

Shalimar: This place really is a hole in the wall. It's cheap, maybe even scary, but damn, the Indian/Pakistani food is fantastic. My friends joke that they feel like they've stepped into Lahore everytime we go. It's in the Tenderloin which is walking distance to Union Square, but the neighborhood can be sketchy. You may not feel comfortable here after dark.

Naan 'n' Curry: There's a number of these scattered around the Bay. The one I go to is on Irving Street. It's always packed, it's very cheap, and the food is good, SPICY and wholesome. Open till midnight. You can take the N-Judah train from Market Street right to the resturant. It's also right next to a Comic Book Store and a Used Book Store (Black Oak Books).

There are a ton of great Italian places in North Beach. You really can't go wrong with just picking one randomly, but the Gold Spike on Columbus is very romantic, and so is Sodini's on Green (& Grant).

Vesuvio is a great bar which is probably in all of your guidebooks (make sure you go to the 2nd floor). It's also next door to City Lights Books, a historic used book store, and across the street from Spec's, another great classic bar.

Well, that's probably more than enough for just a weekend. Have a great trip!

ps -- The cable cars really are so darn cool. They run late on the weekends, and the lines are much shorter at night.
 

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Hmm, some more 'insider tidbits':

Go into the Westin St. Francis (the big hotel on the west side of Union Square). Walk right in, through the lobby & down the hall at the back, into the newer part of the hotel. You'll come to a bend, & there will be elevators on your right stretching along the wall away from you. Take one & hit the top button. After a few floors, they come OUT of the building & go along the outside of the new tower, giving nice views of The City.

Warning: Do not do this with someone afraid of heights without first letting them know what to expect -- not that I've ever done that. (Well, not on purpose anyway. :p )

Second MoMA. Be sure to cross the catwalk at the top -- it's kind of see-through & looks down 4 stories to the lobby below like you're walking on mist. See previous warning.

Second the cable car line mentioned -- & especially after dark, when you'll come down into the Union Square area with all of the lights.

Have a drink (soda even) at the Crown Room bar at the top of the Fairmont hotel. It sits atop Nob Hill, survived the '09 quake & fire, & the view is unbelievable. On a foggy night, you'll see the skyscrapers & hills of The City rising from the fog like islands in a sea of mist. All cable car lines take you right past, so it's easy to combine with a nighttime ride.

Golden Gate Park: there's actually enough to do just in the park to spend your entire vacation here. Highlights I'd recommend are the Conservatory of Flowers (a Victorian-era hothouse only recently reopened after millions of dollars of damage in a big storm in '97) & the Tea Garden (it's touristy, but it is nice).
 

joshwitz said:
Naan 'n' Curry: There's a number of these scattered around the Bay. The one I go to is on Irving Street. It's always packed, it's very cheap, and the food is good, SPICY and wholesome. Open till midnight. You can take the N-Judah train from Market Street right to the resturant. It's also right next to a Comic Book Store and a Used Book Store (Black Oak Books).

Now THAT sounds damn good, mmmm, curry... :)

Have I told anyone lately that Miami is a piss-ant, dump of a town? :mad:
 

The best Chinese place in the city (I refuse to capitalize it, being an Oakland boy) is Yuet Lee, in North Beach (watch your fresh fish look at you! And Jacky Chan ate there! :D). Japanese would be Goemon. Game store would be D&J in the South Bay. All others aren't nearly as cool as they were say 15 years ago, when Games of Berkeley was teh bomb (although it's gotten much better than it was two years ago, IMHO).
 

joshwitz said:

1.) Gamescape is THE game store. The only store that beats it is the Compleat Strategist in NYC.
Umm...not even. Games of Berkeley is far more complete, now that previous owner Mike Sloan has taken charge again. And neither is as complete as D&J Hobbies in the South Bay.
joshwitz said:
3.) Brandy Ho's: Another good Hunan place between North Beach and Chinatown.
Last I looked, it was closed. And inferior to a lot of the places in Oakland Chinatown, China Garlic (in Piedmont), and Tai San (in Berkeley).

In general, I hate to say, SF is highly over-rated. I moved there over 15 years ago, and the place has become quite a dump.
 
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tetsujin28 said:
The best Chinese place in the city (I refuse to capitalize it, being an Oakland boy) is Yuet Lee, in North Beach (watch your fresh fish look at you! And Jacky Chan ate there! :D). Japanese would be Goemon. Game store would be D&J in the South Bay. All others aren't nearly as cool as they were say 15 years ago, when Games of Berkeley was teh bomb (although it's gotten much better than it was two years ago, IMHO).

We aren't leaving the city area it looks like, so Gamescape is probably the one we'll see, and check out local eateries/sites.

Can anyone break down interesting places a gamer might like by area? Maps
always list things like "Russian Hill", "Union Square", "Chinatown"...address are hard to follow w/o Mapquest. :p

Is there still that sub that tourist maps say you can visit? My wife says she'd love to tour a sub.
 

tetsujin28 said:
In general, I hate to say, SF is highly over-rated. I moved there over 15 years ago, and the place has become quite a dump.

You want a dump? Come live in South Florida a few years...*twitch*drool* :confused:

Anything new will be fun, "Dumpy" or not, I'll have to see the eastern side of the bay next trip. :D
 
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tetsujin28 said:
In general, I hate to say, SF is highly over-rated. I moved there over 15 years ago, and the place has become quite a dump.

Yeah, it is somewhat overrated. Parts are "dumpesque," to be sure, but other parts are still quite nice. It depends on where you go. One nice thing, though, is that it is still a decent "walking city", unlike many other American cities now. That counts for something, IMO.

Gamescape is OKAY. Worth a visit, but hardly Zeus's gift to gamers. There are definitely better stores elsewhere (e.g. "Hairy Tarantula" AND "Grey Heroes" in my hometown Toronto).
 

joshwitz said:
Shalimar: This place really is a hole in the wall. It's cheap, maybe even scary, but damn, the Indian/Pakistani food is fantastic. My friends joke that they feel like they've stepped into Lahore everytime we go. It's in the Tenderloin which is walking distance to Union Square, but the neighborhood can be sketchy. You may not feel comfortable here after dark.

Well, define sketchy? I'm hard to make nervous, and big white dudes who shave geometric designs into their beards seem to ward off sketchy folk...who'd have thought? :) It sounds good, and I love hole-in-the-wall type places. Is it the type of place where if you're not Indian/Pakistani you're given "the look"? :)
 

MrFilthyIke said:
We aren't leaving the city area it looks like, so Gamescape is probably the one we'll see, and check out local eateries/sites.

Can anyone break down interesting places a gamer might like by area? Maps
always list things like "Russian Hill", "Union Square", "Chinatown"...address are hard to follow w/o Mapquest. :p
Yeah, welcome to the glory of a city with boroughs ;) 'Fraid I can't help you much, there: I avoid SF like the plague, these days.All I have to say is, if no-one's pissing on your shoes or defecating across from the museum you want to go to, God is shining on you, that day. Yeah, it's gotten that bad.
 

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