Need San Francisco gaming info

Belegbeth said:
Gamescape is OKAY. Worth a visit, but hardly Zeus's gift to gamers. There are definitely better stores elsewhere (e.g. "Hairy Tarantula" AND "Grey Heroes" in my hometown Toronto).

Hey everyone, ANY game store is better than Miami...I have to drive an hour
and leave my county & city to get to a decent game store (ie Dragon's Lair
or Past, Present, Future), so any store that's within a bus ride or SHORT
drive is a BIG treat for me! :\

Let me add, in case any locals are reading, in Miami Outland Station does sell
games, but the focus is on cards and collectibles and comics, so that doesn't
count in my eyes.
 

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MrFilthyIke said:
Well, define sketchy? I'm hard to make nervous, and big white dudes who shave geometric designs into their beards seem to ward off sketchy folk...who'd have thought? :) It sounds good, and I love hole-in-the-wall type places. Is it the type of place where if you're not Indian/Pakistani you're given "the look"? :)
No, probably not. The Indian/Pakistani community in the Bay Area is quite friendly, like over here in the UK. Yuet Lee is at the corner of (IIRC) Columbus and Broadway, and Goemon's on Irving b/t 15th and 16th avenues (the Sunset).

Don't go the Mission at night. Or park there. It's fun, but it's gotten way sketchy, despite the number of cool eateries and nightclubs that have sprung up. It's a great place to get your car 'keyed', especially if it's an SUV (gotta love those intolerant 'liberals'!).
 

tetsujin28 said:
Yeah, welcome to the glory of a city with boroughs ;) 'Fraid I can't help you much, there: I avoid SF like the plague, these days.All I have to say is, if no-one's pissing on your shoes or defecating across from the museum you want to go to, God is shining on you, that day. Yeah, it's gotten that bad.

'Friad that sounds like any downtown city. :D

Well, I'll cast Protection from Bums and Piss Ward, and we should be safe. :lol:

Miami doesn't have boroughs...just urban sprawl followed by suburban crawl...which, ironically, is the speed limit in South Florida. Crawl. :(

Back to topic, how BIG is Gamescape? The size of a small store front?
Hole in the wall? Size of a large drugstore? Work with me. :D
 

tetsujin28 said:
No, probably not. The Indian/Pakistani community in the Bay Area is quite friendly, like over here in the UK.

Very cool, my wife's from Melbourne, Aus...and was suprised by the LACK of Indian places here in Miami. Maybe she'll feel more like "home" there? :)

It's a great place to get your car 'keyed', especially if it's an SUV (gotta love those intolerant 'liberals'!).

"Get your hands off me, you damn dirty liberal!"

Just kidding. :)

If they key my vechicle, I'll be pissed, I like me feet the way they are!!

:lol:

I'm easy going, I get along with left and right...as long as they get out of my face. :)
 

MrFilthyIke said:
Back to topic, how BIG is Gamescape? The size of a small store front?
Hole in the wall? Size of a large drugstore? Work with me. :D
I would put it between the two. And the people who work there are [sarcasm] oh so helpful [/sarcasm]. But, y'know, it's got stuff. Just as long as you don't expect a lot of stuff, like minis and the like.

Y'know, I'm really not sure what the state is of Indian/Pakistani restaurants in SF. My brother's girlfriend is from Madras, and they always preferred staying in the East Bay for restaurants. Or cooking at home.

But make sure you go to Yuet Lee! :D

Anyways, it's nearly 4 AM here in the UK, and I'm in the midst of revisions for exams :uhoh: Take care!

P.S. Oh, and make sure to go to the art deco exhibit at the Legion of Honour whilst you're there!
 

tetsujin28 said:
Don't go the Mission at night. Or park there. It's fun, but it's gotten way sketchy, despite the number of cool eateries and nightclubs that have sprung up. It's a great place to get your car 'keyed', especially if it's an SUV (gotta love those intolerant 'liberals'!).

This is a HUGE overstatement.

I live in the Mission, near Dolores Park, and have never had any trouble here (nor have any of my visiting friends, who park nearby for evenings of fun). Parts of the Mission are a bit sketchy (including Mission St. itself, which is annoyingly dirty), but if you stay to the west of Mission St. -- for example, on Valencia, where many cool restaurants and bars are located -- you should be fine. "Luna Park" on Valencia, and "Ti Couz" (sp?) at Valencia and 16th, are both great restaurants.

Seriously, I've lived here for almost two years, and have never had any trouble, or heard of anyone having their car "keyed."
 
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joshwitz said:
Naan 'n' Curry: There's a number of these scattered around the Bay. The one I go to is on Irving Street. It's always packed, it's very cheap, and the food is good, SPICY and wholesome. Open till midnight. You can take the N-Judah train from Market Street right to the resturant. It's also right next to a Comic Book Store and a Used Book Store (Black Oak Books).

I love NnC, though my wife and I have only eaten at the one on 478 O'Farrell (between Jones and Taylor). I'll happily second the cuisine as the best Indian food for the money! (If you're interested in somewhat pricier excellent India food, you can try Gaylord's in Embarcadero Center).
 

grodog said:
I love NnC, though my wife and I have only eaten at the one on 478 O'Farrell (between Jones and Taylor). I'll happily second the cuisine as the best Indian food for the money! (If you're interested in somewhat pricier excellent India food, you can try Gaylord's in Embarcadero Center).

Excellant, bring on the indian, that's one of our favorite types of food. :)

Are there any good, "On the go" fast but mom-n-pop style places to eat?
For like a lite lunch?? Maybe near Gamescape?? ;)
 

SF might not be paradise but it's far from the :):):):)-hole some people here are making it out to be. Urinating and defecating? Give me a break. With out a doubt some of the restaurants are a bit overpriced but in all honesty I avoid those completely. It can be difficult for tourist to differentiate between the local hangouts and the tourist traps.

The mission is not, I repeat NOT the projects. It has color. It might be on the dirty side (especially the southern end of the street) but you have little reason to beyond 20th street.

As I've stated before the neighborhoods to visit include Haight Street, North Beach, Irving Street and the Mission for the more casual ambiance.

If you preffer a more yupy atmosphere then I recomend Union Street, Chestnut Street and Filmore Street.

All of these areas have great restaurants.

Near Gamescape all you have is Haight Street and that's at least a 15 minute walk. You can hop on the same bus that got you to the store and take it a 3 or 4 minute ride to Haight and Ashbury. From there it's only a 10 minute ride to (less if you have a car) to Irving street.

I'll second the other person's recommendation for the Dim Sum restaurants in the city. They are worth your time.
 

Wow. I just checked this thread after a day, and I'm a bit surprised at the SF bashing. Personally I love San Francisco. I've travelled all over the world, and this is where I've chosen to live for the past 10 years. Yeah, there are better cities. But there's also a lot more worse ones.

Well, define sketchy? I'm hard to make nervous, and big white dudes who shave geometric designs into their beards seem to ward off sketchy folk...who'd have thought? It sounds good, and I love hole-in-the-wall type places. Is it the type of place where if you're not Indian/Pakistani you're given "the look"?

The Tenderloin is known for drug dealers, prostitutes, and cheap Indian and Vietnamese food. Personally, I've never had a problem in the Tenderloin. I wouldn't send my parents there, but a big white dude with geometric designs in his beard should fit right in with all the other hipsters getting curries. Fritz Leiber (author of the Fafhrd and Grey Mouser stories) and Dashiel Hammet both lived in this neighborhood back in the day.

You mentioned you like Indian food. SF is in the midst of a wave of new cheap Indian resturants opening, probably due to the fact that we've had a large number of Indian and Pakistani immigrants move here in the past 5 years or so. I've never gotten "the look".

Coming from Miami, you might be surprised at how many Asian resturants there are. Everything from Burmese to specific cantons in China are represented. And while it's not crab season, you might want to try the Dungenese crab. It's a real West Coast speciality. You can get it with the traditional seasonings down at the wharf (Alioto's if you feel like splurging), or Vietnamese style at PPQ (on Clement) or Crustecean (on Polk).

The Mission is only slightly sketchy, and has a very cool nightlife if you like divey bars, taquerias and trendy resturants. Valencia street between 16th and 22nd is a good place to start if you feel like exploring. You probably don't want to go east of Mission street, however.

One place I forgot to mention in my list:

Kate's Kitchen: Best Breakfast Ever. It's on Haight, near Fillmore; about 4 short blocks before Divisidero (and Gamescape). A mix of Southern and Californian cusine. My favorite is the Cinamon French Toast Orgy: big slices of French Toast smothered in granola, yogurt, honey, and fruit. Big enough for 2. The cornmeal pancakes with strawberries are also excellent.

Gamescape: it's fairly big, goes back kinda deep, and it's a bit cluttered. Hardwood floors that creak as you walk around. Contrary to what other people have said, the staff is very friendly, helpful, and knowledable. If they don't have something, they will order it for you. They have a great selection of RPG stuff and boardgames, and have an excellent selection of Go and Majong sets. In the back, they have a selection of used games and RPG material. Everyone has their favorite gamestore, I guess. This one's mine. I'm here about twice a month, just checking stuff out.

A last word of advice: don't rent a car. SF is a great walking city, in spite of (because of?) the hills. If you can't walk there, you can always take public tansportation (just don't expect it to be on time, however!) Parking in SF can be INSANE. SF was built pre-auto, so it really isn't laid out for cars. It's sorta like some European cities that way. From Union Square, you can take a bus or a train anywhere in SF or the Greater Bay Area. One of the great things about walking around SF is just happening on some garishly painted Victorian or some awesome view of the bay that rivals any postcard. You'll find the things that aren't listed in any guidebook.

Have fun!
 

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