Need WOTC Offical to deal with the half-elf pregen/Keep of Shadowfell before release.

[Cam Banks]

Yes, that is it. No free feat, no additioanl class ability, no addition power as an encounter from another class, not even an extra trained skill, NOTHING EXTRA.

Are you sure? Because the D&D Experience cleric was human, so you may be seeing more cleric powers than other clerics get because this is a half-elf.

Cheers,
Cam

 

[mach1.9pants]

Sad but true. "Stoats of war" would work well too ... poor little kiwis. They're endangered you know. All thanks to those non-native rats and stoats and dogs. *Shakes fist*

Pity these aren't still flying about!

 

[Cam Banks]

Pity these aren't still flying about!

To say nothing of the joy of being kicked in the head by a giant moa.

Back when I was just a poor game store manager in Auckland, I dreamed of writing an AD&D module incorporating all the coolest bits of Maori legend and folklore and having hapless outsiders (the PCs) deal with taniwha and patupaiairehe and tūrehu. Of course, then you have to include a pronunciation guide.

Cheers,
Cam

 

[Kitirat]

Are you sure? Because the D&D Experience cleric was human, so you may be seeing more cleric powers than other clerics get because this is a half-elf.

Cheers,
Cam

Very sure, looked over the character for 10 minutes. two at wills, 1 encounter, the divine stuff (turn undead, etc), 1 daily. 4 trained skills, 1 feat. Under class features, only the two +2 to skills (insight and diplomacy) and the +1 to allies diplomancy with 10 ft were all that was listed (all other character had a full list of their racial abilities here). Believe me, I REALLY looked. So it is either half-elves get only the +1 to diplomacy checks, or the character is messed up. I think the most likely explaination is the one someone above listed, which was they left it out for space reasons as the charecter sheet is SUPER full and has no remaining space (they would of had to use a 3rd sheet).

That said, it still sucks and I would like to see if we can get them to fix it before the offical release.

See ya,
Ken

 

[malcolm_n]

Conspiracy theory; we'll all get our books in June and when we get outside the cool stylized "cover" falls off and you're holding the 3.0 PHB, MM and DMG...

 

[CharlesRyan]

Just to be clear, because I was confused about the point of the original post and it looks like some other people were too.

The OP is unhappy because he doesn't like the half-elf's racial characteristics; he is NOT (I think) saying the WotC failed to include the character's racial characteristics in the pre-gen character. In other words, he's complaining about a design decision, not about a faulty stat block. (I have a copy of KotS open in front of me right now, and the pre-gen character seems to be complete.)

 

[Frostmarrow]

Just to be clear, because I was confused about the point of the original post and it looks like some other people were too.

The OP is unhappy because he doesn't like the half-elf's racial characteristics; he is NOT (I think) saying the WotC failed to include the character's racial characteristics in the pre-gen character. In other words, he's complaining about a design decision, not about a faulty stat block. (I have a copy of KotS open in front of me right now, and the pre-gen character seems to be complete.)

So the half-elf really does suck?

 

[pukunui]

Back when I was just a poor game store manager in Auckland, I dreamed of writing an AD&D module incorporating all the coolest bits of Maori legend and folklore and having hapless outsiders (the PCs) deal with taniwha and patupaiairehe and tūrehu. Of course, then you have to include a pronunciation guide.

Did you pick up on the haka reference in ToB?

Forget the initial post. Once this thread became about grammar and unique word use, it became the best thread of this entire board.

Mad props to me! Sorry, Kitirat.

Just for the record, I, too, am concerned that these pregen characters might be messed up. If it turns out they are and WotC doesn't do anything to fix it, I may just put the adventure aside until the core books arrive and then run it with homemade characters instead.

 

[Fiendish Dire Weasel]

Just to be clear, because I was confused about the point of the original post and it looks like some other people were too.

The OP is unhappy because he doesn't like the half-elf's racial characteristics; he is NOT (I think) saying the WotC failed to include the character's racial characteristics in the pre-gen character. In other words, he's complaining about a design decision, not about a faulty stat block. (I have a copy of KotS open in front of me right now, and the pre-gen character seems to be complete.)

If the character sheet is correct then half elves are far and away the mechanically weakest race: All they have is +1 group Diplomacy, +2 Diplomacy, +2 Insight and stat mods. You really think that is complete?

 

[essenbee]

However the half-elf has NONE of its racial abilities except the following:
+2 Con and Cha.
+2 Insight + Diplomacy
+1 to allies for diplomacy if within 10ft.

Yes, that is it. No free feat, no additioanl class ability, no addition power as an encounter from another class, not even an extra trained skill, NOTHING EXTRA.

As the racial abilities of the half-elf have not been in any of the official previews, I assume that the OP is basing his expectations on the fan-produced "PHB-Lite"?