Need WOTC Offical to deal with the half-elf pregen/Keep of Shadowfell before release.

[Fiendish Dire Weasel]

As the racial abilities of the half-elf have not been in any of the official previews, I assume that the OP is basing his expectations on the fan-produced "PHB-Lite"?

We're basing it off the DDXP half-elf Warlock that had a Wizard at-will power as an encounter power for no other reason we can find other than being a half-elf. Also, in an interview somewhere they talked about half-elves getting a multiclass bonus I thought.

 

[Cadfan]

Perhaps the stat bonuses are floating?

You know, my half elf gets +2 con +2 cha, yours gets +2 str +2 int?

 

[Nikosandros]

As the racial abilities of the half-elf have not been in any of the official previews, I assume that the OP is basing his expectations on the fan-produced "PHB-Lite"?

I guess that the expectations are also based on what we know about other races. From this limited information half-elves appear to be weaker.

 

[Green Knight]

According to thalmin's post in his Shadowfall preview thread, the dragonborn paladin had Wis 13. This could mean that Lay on Hands per day is tied to Wisdom instead of Charisma.

Hmm. The OP said the pregen had Wis 16. But if it's Wis 13 then that explains it. Damn. So much for my hope of being able to gimp Wis without consequences.

 

[Cam Banks]

Did you pick up on the haka reference in ToB?

I never read the thing, so no, I didn't pick up on that. Was it especially useful against springboks?

Cheers,
Cam

 

[Kitirat]

We're basing it off the DDXP half-elf Warlock that had a Wizard at-will power as an encounter power for no other reason we can find other than being a half-elf. Also, in an interview somewhere they talked about half-elves getting a multiclass bonus I thought.

Based it off the DDXP warlock, who has a class feature (prime shot) of the ranger, and the wizard at-will ray of frost as an encounter power.

I made a mistake on the wis of the dragonborn BTW, it is 13 not 16 so LOH may be based on Wis for number of times a day (or Con for that matter).

Finally, to make it clear, what I was saying is the KotS half-elf cleric has a full two sheets (it is not like the paper is blank, it is chalk full) BUT, the only racial ability other than the stat and skill boons all races get, the ONLY racial feature is the +1 dip at 10 ft.

Thus I am concerned about it for one of two reasons:
1) Half-elves are just horridly pitiful, even worse then 3.5 races and not even close to any other race in 4th.
OR
2) The pregen has none of the cool components of the Half-Elf, gimping the character in comparison to the other characters in KoTS.

Regardless, the real issue for me is I have to deal with people I'm trying to get into 4th and it is one of the things they will point to and say "here is an example of things to come, oversight and/or error" and thus have their interest diminished in the short term (I doubt highly it will prevent them from trying out 4th when the rest of the books come in, but those 30 days are going to be irritating). To be honest, I fell a bit cheated myself. You playtested this massive adventure and could not even find the half-elf issue on a pregen for it? Wow.

 

[Nytmare]

Of course, then you have to include a pronunciation guide.

Do you really think a thing like proper pronunciation is going to get in the way of gamers?

 

[drjones]

We know that racial abilities also come from feats right? Feats none of us have seen? So pronouncing half-elves nerfed at this point is entirely premature, especially since there is no reason to believe that the pregens have to be min/maxed up the wazoo. Maybe they just wanted this guy to be diplomatic?

 

[MindWanderer]

We also know that WotC acknowledged the half-elf to be the worst 3e race, and they'd take measures to correct that. Since all races have racial feats, and feats should be balanced with one another, the half-elf needs cool features, too.

Besides, I ran my "Tira has Ray of Frost because she's a half-elf" theory past one of the design team members when I was at DDXP, and he confirmed it. He didn't tell me the specific rules, but I gave him a laundry-list of speculations, and he said, "everything you've said is correct."

 

[pukunui]

I never read the thing, so no, I didn't pick up on that. Was it especially useful against springboks?

One of the "nine swords" (legacy weapons) is named Kamate, which means "it is death" in Maori Goblin. It doesn't give any indication as to its effectiveness against springboks unfortunately.

Here's a question: What does the half-elf cleric get when he levels up? Are there any racial things that come into play at 2nd or 3rd level? Anyone know?