Need WOTC Offical to deal with the half-elf pregen/Keep of Shadowfell before release.

[mach1.9pants]

WOTC had this same problem when 3.0 came out. The people making modules and stat blocks had no idea how to edit them to make sure all of the numbers added up correctly.

So, you'd kinda hoped they'd learned from their mistakes! The 'but we always get this problem' is one of the worst form of excuses that exists IMO

 

[Cirex]

It's just frustrating and very sad that they have such an obvious error (oversight?) in what was to be the premier D&D 4th Edition product.

The less popular three 3.x core classes, half-orcs, half-elves and gnomes didn't have much luck at 4.0! Two out, one is left out at the second pregen we get of it.

 

[jeffhartsell]

So, you'd kinda hoped they'd learned from their mistakes! The 'but we always get this problem' is one of the worst form of excuses that exists IMO

Agree.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

It's the first thing I noticed about the half-elf too. I was really looking forward to finding out if the first DDXP half-elf was correct or the second one (IE if the character's multi-class power was actually at-will or encounter) and MO DICE, it doesn't even HAVE a multiclass power.

The designers have CLEARLY stated that half-elves have some sort of multiclass feature, but this cleric certainly doesn't. If it is an error (which I hope), It's a pretty big one. But there IS evidence to support the error theory, in that there are OTHER, smaller errors on the character sheets, like the Paladin saying that his Healing Hands feat is "already included" when it clearly ISN'T.

All I have to say is I hope that Half-Elf is missing his multiclass power, and that they haven't nerfed the half-elf, AGAIN.

Fitz

 

[hbarsquared]

Here's a thought, given the unsatisfactory character sheets -

Perhaps the copies of KotS is indeed a literal preview copy, as in, not from the final print run? I know bookstores sometimes receive "preview" copies of novels that don't quite match up, edit-wise, to the final publication.

Perhaps we are seeing something similar, here? And the copy that will be released on May 20 will be better edited... I hope...

 

[FitzTheRuke]

HPerhaps the copies of KotS is indeed a literal preview copy, as in, not from the final print run? I know bookstores sometimes receive "preview" copies of novels that don't quite match up, edit-wise, to the final publication....

Yeah, we can hope they rushed a small preview print-run while the actual book was still in a final editing pass. Somehow I really doubt it, though.

Fitz

 

[The_Universe]

Alright so I went to the store and saw KotS. I'll give impressions in another post, however in this I am solely looking for a WOTC offical to address the half-elf issue.

4 of the 5 Pregens looked great. Disliked that the paladin's LOH was reduced from 3 to 1 a day, but otherwise, very nicely done.

However the half-elf has NONE of its racial abilities except the following:
+2 Con and Cha.
+2 Insight + Diplomacy
+1 to allies for diplomacy if within 10ft.

Yes, that is it. No free feat, no additioanl class ability, no addition power as an encounter from another class, not even an extra trained skill, NOTHING EXTRA. I emplore WOTC to address this and sometime before the offical release of KotS post on the site a revised cleric. It looks bad for it not to be addressed and (for me personally) worse because I have 6 people playing the module who would like to see the new pregens and as old timers will cry fowl, spoiling the mood with this one thing ("damn it, do I have to be the low level cleric? Ah crap it is a half elf and they are half as good as any other race!")

Please address quickly.

As another note, I hope you all are still going to post a 6th character as was said before, can we get a confirmation on this?

Thanks,
Ken













First thing I thought was WOW, this is easily the highest quality adventure I have ever seen. Awesome.

Dangit! What stores have this thing on the shelves!? I want it!

 

[Lurker59]

I can (for the most part) confirm that the copy the stores get is the same one that everyone else will be receiving. Personally my guess is that the half-elf lacks a multi-class ability due to lack of space. All the characters fit on two-pages and there is absolutely no extra space on the cleric's pages. The mistakes in modifiers are a little galling though.

 

[jeffhartsell]

Yeah, we can hope they rushed a small preview print-run while the actual book was still in a final editing pass. Somehow I really doubt it, though.

Agree. It is more likely WOTC rushed the module to build up the hype for WWGD and have a module for the game day. Plus, WOTC is notorious for poor editing. Me thinks too many people playing DnD at the office instead of focusing on editing

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I can (for the most part) confirm that the copy the stores get is the same one that everyone else will be receiving. Personally my guess is that the half-elf lacks a multi-class ability due to lack of space. All the characters fit on two-pages and there is absolutely no extra space on the cleric's pages. The mistakes in modifiers are a little galling though.

I think this possibility might worry me MORE... there's no space so it just gets cut? You've got to redesign your character sheet if you can't fit everything on it, not nerf the character. (or pick a diferent race/class combo that can fit all it's ablilites if you're stuck on the format.)

Fitz