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New Digital Games Studio announced by the president of Wizards of the Coast

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
It's not really for me, I don't think. My interest is tabletop roleplaying specifically, not the D&D brand. Where the two coincide, that's awesome.
 

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Vampyr3

Explorer
In all likelihood this is a giant hole they're just throwing their money into...


There's no way this means we're getting a new AAA D&D RPG video game. A game like that requires a TON of money and years of development time. We're likely going to see some small stuff first (apps, a D&D version of Pokemon Go, freemium time wasters, etc) and then, maybe in three or four years, and actual video game.


This.. So Much This.... Thumbs Up Sir..
 

ShadowCat5

First Post
I just want ONE RPG that uses the actual 5th Edition rules. I want it to be mostly bug free and have a good story like Baldur's Gate 2. Or in other words, I want Baldur's Gate 3.

If they tried a Sandbox RPG like Fallout or Skyrim, that would be ok too, but BG3 is about the only way they will catch my interest or money. A Bethesda like game is even more unlikely.
 


ShadowCat5

First Post
I'd be thrilled with something like Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance. The fantasy gaming community is large and ripe currently, the most robust it has ever been.

I am surprised they never rereleased those on modern consoles in HD format. Seems like it would be an easy way to make some extra money. The old coin-ops in Mystara were released on XBOX ONE. They could do both Dark Alliance 1 and 2 as a set. Then do D&D Heroes.
 

darjr

I crit!
Whatever they come up with, don't expect this aspect to change. No way they'll be giving away the AP related content for a price that is not anywhere near the price for the AP itself

Which is fine for me, just as long as it's PDF or a similar from. I don't need not want to pay for the vtt features.
 




pming

Adventurer
Well, if a video game comes out, I'd go with a nice "Baldurs Gate 3" as well (as [MENTION=6807767]ShadowCat5[/MENTION] said). However, I think they'll pump out a bunch of cra...'stuff'... that will be downloaded a few million times, used for a month, then never touched again. Basically, a wast of time, money, and effort. In all honesty, any "digital tool for the table" is useless to me. We don't use tablets/computers/phones at the table 99% of the time...the 1% of the time it's a tablet to read PDF's of stuff not available in print. The only "digital tool" I've contemplated grabbing so far is "Realm Works", so I could reveal pics, handouts, maps, etc that everyone could see on their tablets (to save on ink mostly...that sh!#$ expensive!).

A "digital tool for designing D&D adventures" might get my attention. But such a program would need to have a few key elements: (1) DOES NOT REQUIRE SUBSCRIPTION (I'm starting to *loath* that method). (2) Does not require me to be constantly connected to the net (3) Lets me save/DL my creations, whatever they are, in a non-propitiatory format (so, png/bmp/tiff, or pdf/rtf/odf/sxw, etc). (4) Has a *ridiculous* amount of customization... if I can't add my own rules, images, maps, text, stats, or if I can't modify virtually *anything* in it, then forget about it.

So...yeah...I've pretty much resigned myself to not buying any of their 'digital stuff'. The corporate mantra of the day now is "Hook 'em with free, get their info, sell it to others...and if you can swing it, go subscription and lock them out of their stuff if they stop paying protecti....'subscription' fees. Bonus Points if you can add some kind of microtransaction".

I'm betting on "Subscription, Proprietary Format, Microtransactions" for just about everything they put out that isn't free. If it's free..."Free, Info-Gathering/Selling, Ad Revenue, Microtransactions" (the old saying holds true...If you aren't paying for the product, you ARE the product. Just give me "Core Rules 3.0 for 5e". :)

^_^

Paul L. Ming
 

Osgood

Explorer
I need another D&D video game like a need another nipple, but digital tools for the tabletop game are always welcome.
 

Leatherhead

Possibly a Idiot.
I am very confused about what people think a VTT is, or more specifically, what the "VTT" part of a VTT is. People seem to be asking for everything out of a VTT but a dice roller, battle mat, and chat box.
 

I'm A Banana

Potassium-Rich
It's a good sign that they're making their own studio for this, as it's definitely the case that other studios are generally more interested in their IP than in playing with yours. They can't build an empire with yours. Want someone to give your game their best work? Hire 'em.

You also don't necessarily need a tremendous budget to make a good game, but you do need a clear vision. Trend-chasing is kind of doomed - you can't be the next Pokemon Go. You won't replicate the same perfect storm of 90's nostalgia, "innovation," and media cycle attention (and if you mistake the success of that game for "There's this massive untapped audience for ARG's!" you're probably going to spend more money than you make).

But, there are things you could do with a well-designed D&D app or video game. I could even see certain kinds of ARG being kind of cool (assuming you can solve the battery use/lag problems that PkG had).
 

Ashran

Explorer
Supporter
You know, if I was in a situation to decide the future of video games about d&d, I would probably take a page of telltale's episodic game and think of a way to do a baldur's gate like game in episodic format. Not just on the FR, but on all worlds that was once a part of the publishing schedule of tsr/wotc all linked by planescape/spelljammer or time. That or I would develop an actual successor to neverwinter nights with a better code for sharing one's creations and also have a link to all worlds published.
 

Grimjack99

First Post
Past experience with WotC doing digital has left me skeptical/jaded. I want them to succeed but I am not sure they know how to as past offerings were either terrible, poorly handled or ruined once eventually come good.

Be aware that WOTC's D&D 4E digital launch was hampered by the project director's murder, and the 5E launch hampered by an overzealous, incompetent 3rd party provider. Third times the charm. I hope.
 


Shemeska

Adventurer
Be aware that WOTC's D&D 4E digital launch was hampered by the project director's murder

This gets mentioned a lot. But as horrific as that event was, it occurred relatively late in the timeline of the Digital Initiative/Gleemax. It happened AFAIK after the original project was pulled back from outsourcing, essentially junked, and restarted in-house with a smaller team.
 

CM

Adventurer
Official online tools utterly killed third party publishing in 4E.

If they do it in 5E it would kill DMs Guild. Which they don't want.

I thought it was lack of a suitable third-party license and the 4e ruleset itself that killed 3pp in 4e?

The 4e compendium was just quick & convenient access to official rules material that appeared in the PBH, DMG, MM, and splatbooks. Things that make running the game easier, not thing that replace 3rd party products. It's not a competitor to the DM's Guild at all. DM Guild publishers could even offer content packs for such an app, as another profit avenue. If anything it would cut into PHB sales, but I'd be willing to put up money for a usable compendium.
 
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Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
If they do it in 5E it would kill DMs Guild. Which they don't want.


I thought it was lack of a suitable third-party license and the 4e ruleset itself that killed 3pp in 4e?

The 4e compendium was just quick & convenient access to official rules material that appeared in the PBH, DMG, MM, and splatbooks. Things that make running the game easier, not thing that replace 3rd party products. It's not a competitor to the DM's guild at all. DM Guild publishers could even offer content packs for such an app, as another profit avenue. If anything it would cut into PHB sales, but I'd be willing to put up money for a usable compendium.

The license was fine. We used it for years without any issues.

The tough part was the online tools. If you couldn't look it up in the online tools or if it didn't work with the official character builder, it was near impossible to sell stuff to people. Player options, in particular, just wouldn't sell, because the character builder only supported official material. A culture developed whereby pretty much everybody used the online CB to make their characters. WotC didn't allow third party material on it.

If WotC creates a dependency on official online tools again, the DMsG publishers will have the same problem so we third party publishers had. So will those of us who produce third party stuff outside then DMsG, of course.

Third party content packs? That would be cool, but they didn't do that last time no matter how much we said we wanted it.
 
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