New News Page Layout

This is just an experiment - I'm not sold on it. The idea is that bigger news items dropped out of sight pretty quickly with the old format, while this one allows more to be seen at a glance. On the downside, it also makes it look a lot like every other news site on the web. The difference isn't as big as it appears at first - it's just that individual items are collapsed rather than expanded by default, in an attempt to make more room. Other than that, it's the same.
Anyhow, with the caveat that nobody likes change, let me know how you get on with it. It may stay, or it may go back to the old way. Switching it back is only a single click away!
 
Russ Morrissey

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Agglomérante

Villager
Maybe post a screenshot of the layout using the average visitor's screen dimensions. Your web analytics app probably collects the data.

I find the narrower headings produce a blocky "tombstone" effect on the page. The dark grey background with the dark blue type are just these dark slabs on your page. Every article has the read-aloud-text-block background grey. The overall effect is cramped blocks! The existing while space is wasted in inconsistent gutters.

I'd lose all the heavy backgrounds, which will open up all kinds of white space, and let the large type of the headings guide the eye. At least use that as a starting point for a subtle design to guide the eye from article to article.

Love the site itself :)
 

Nellisir

Adventurer
Anyhow, if you don't like it you don't like it! I'm not trying to talk you into liking it. :)
No, I know - I like to be clear about why I don't like something and/or exactly what the problem is. Sometimes it's an easy fix.
I don't like the slideshow. I can probably get used to the rest of it. Still prefer the old style. Maybe the same amount of scrolling, but less clicking.
 
By rail, do you mean columns? There was only ever one column of news!
Rail (aka "handrail"): The left/right columns that are ads, links, summaries, etc (everything but news content). There had been two (left/right) with the news column in the center; I prefer the single rail on the right.

I prefer one column of expanded news to two collapsed -- I don't want to have to "click through" to read a news article, then click back, then click through again, etc.
 

bujoojoo

Villager
I [almost] like it. :)

I think if you cut the scrolling 'features' graphic down to about 2/3rds the height it is now, remove the 'Morrus' Daily RPG News Updates' banner underneath that (you already have the breadcrumb at the top of the page under the main banner), reduce the font in the headlines (both in the news and the sidebar sections) by a few points (along with the page view counts underneath those - i think those should be removed or at least tiny and stuffed in the corner of the headline 'box' (Does anyone care about that other than you? That might be an admin only view feature or at least customizable by the readers).

I just think a bit more data on the page is better than too much header and whitespace. The reader wants to get to what he wants to read as quickly as possible and IMO keeping data above the 'fold' is better than asking the user to scroll, scroll, scroll...

Just my $0.02...

Thanks for your hard work keeping this site going...
 

samursus

Villager
Love the new News page format. I concur, in that I missed the older items or had to click on multiple links to see what was going on. This format works way better for me.
 

Riley

Explorer
I don't like the new version; I like the traditional view. I like being able to skim/scroll through the meat of the posts, so I can quickly tell whether or not I want to read more closely.

I can't easily tell from the new teasers whether or not I'm interested in the post. If I wanted short teasers, then I'd go with a twitter feed - which I don't. (YMMV.)
 

Blackbrrd

Villager
My suggestion:
a) drop big box*, keep two-column format
b) keep big box, switch back to old one-column format.

Btw, maybe removing the "xxxx/yyyy views" text on each article. It basically just clutters the front page taking up space, pushing news further down.

*The one with 7 news item in it.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I like it, but I miss that the old format automatically generated a forum topic. I'm not sure whats going on with this new format. Some news stories (like this one) can be commented, but not as part of the forum; some news stories (like http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?2067-D-d-5E-Rules-Summary-Sheet#.VHKaJDSUe4I) don't appear to have any way to comment at all.
Oh, the forum thread linking was always manual, not automatic. It's not related to the format, just what I manually link it to.
 

jimmifett

Villager
Error on front page, above content:
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TarionzCousin

Second Most Angelic Devil Ever
I like the two-column layout. Now if I miss a day, I can easily find a week's worth of articles in one place.
 

Toriel

Explorer
The only thing I find is missing is the date the news was added. I usually read them by date and scroll to the last date I read when I miss for a few days.
 

Guyanthalas

Villager
I think with frequent use I'll the hang of it, and trying hard not to just be "Change is bad!!!" kinda guy.

I agree with [MENTION=38630]Toriel[/MENTION], dates will be more important with this kind of layout.
 

lyle.spade

Explorer
I like it, since it'll enable you to add blocks of news at the top throughout a day without creating an entirely new section. I was okay with the previous layout; however, I like this one better. And I actually don't think it looks a great deal like other sites.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I like it, since it'll enable you to add blocks of news at the top throughout a day without creating an entirely new section. I was okay with the previous layout; however, I like this one better. And I actually don't think it looks a great deal like other sites.
That is one benefit. I can now add smaller items that I might have put off for the day, because I know they won't knock something important off the page.
 

Mercule

Adventurer
I think I preferred the old one, but only barely -- except for the carousel/slide-show. I really hate that.
 

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