New Spells

[Samloyal23]

I agree with points already made in this thread. An absurd casting time for a short duration on a mid-level spells, spells too high in level to begin with, and very limited usability make for revision necessary environments.

I disagree with Empirate on an entirely different note. Hideous Laughter is a fantastic, career or life ruining spell when used during religious or particularly emotional social events.

Hideous Laughter is great fun at funerals, especially the death of political leader or your mother-in-law...

 

[Samloyal23]

Both of these are much too high of a level, IMO, since they're more limited (and thus should be lower level than) versions of Charm Person and Suggestion. Love Letter's delivery mechanism should probably push it up a level or two, but not to 7.

When I wrote Love Letter I had the spell Symbol in mind, as well as Geas. It is essentially a Symbol of Love that compels your to quest for the beloved signer of the letter...

 

[Sekhmet]

As a Symbol spell, I would utterly remove the "duration" for the affect and add a "Permanency" allowance for the Symbol itself.
I would also drop the spell to level 6, as it has limited usage.

If you look at Symbol of Death, you can find some good guidelines for the additional portions of the spell that Symbols usually include, such as detection and dispelling.

 

[Samloyal23]

As a Symbol spell, I would utterly remove the "duration" for the affect and add a "Permanency" allowance for the Symbol itself.
I would also drop the spell to level 6, as it has limited usage.

If you look at Symbol of Death, you can find some good guidelines for the additional portions of the spell that Symbols usually include, such as detection and dispelling.

I'm thinking if the letter is permanently enchanted that might be too powerful, might as well make it a magic item. The affect on a subject remains until they make a successful Will check, which if they are too weak may never happen unless the signer does something to break the hold of the spell, like attacking the adoring subject. The detection and dispelling rules for Symbol look good, I may revise this spell to have something like that...

 

[Samloyal23]

On the former, I think one of the material components should be a strand of hair from the intended recipient. This makes the letter work on only a single, intended target rather than whoever reads it first - and also opens up avenues for RP.

On the latter, I am not touching that (pun intended).

Well, part of the idea was to make the letter sort of contagious, so that it sets people in motion looking for the signer, motivating all kinds of people in different places to yearn for the signer and quest to meet him. When they finally all find the berk, the real mayhem begins...

 

[kitcik]

THIS is why they are high level spells - intended to effect multiple, unnamed targets.

 

[Sekhmet]

I'm thinking if the letter is permanently enchanted that might be too powerful, might as well make it a magic item. The affect on a subject remains until they make a successful Will check, which if they are too weak may never happen unless the signer does something to break the hold of the spell, like attacking the adoring subject. The detection and dispelling rules for Symbol look good, I may revise this spell to have something like that...

Remember that Geas and Quest are level 6 spells, with no saving throw, and with a casting time of only 10 minutes, plus the subject takes 3d6 damage (and becomes sickened) every day he doesn't try to accomplish his quest.

Having a Permanencied Love Letter (at a cost of 3,000 xp to the caster) seems interesting and fun, rather than game breaking.

As it currently stands, there is absolutely no reason a caster would choose to use Love Letter instead of Lesser Geas or Geas.

The only potential advantage I see to your Love Letter spell is that you can deliver it via the mail, rather than by wiggling your fingers at someone. Of course, that has downsides. A servant or courier could read the letter before delivering it to your intended target. Also realize that once a person has read this Love Letter, they are going to put it in their pouch/pocket to keep it close to them as they search for their onetruelove. The letter will almost never be read by more than one person, thereby negating one of your potential "pros" and moving it to the "cons" column.

Stalkers in love are creepy, bro.

 

[Samloyal23]

Remember that Geas and Quest are level 6 spells, with no saving throw, and with a casting time of only 10 minutes, plus the subject takes 3d6 damage (and becomes sickened) every day he doesn't try to accomplish his quest.

Having a Permanencied Love Letter (at a cost of 3,000 xp to the caster) seems interesting and fun, rather than game breaking.

As it currently stands, there is absolutely no reason a caster would choose to use Love Letter instead of Lesser Geas or Geas.

The only potential advantage I see to your Love Letter spell is that you can deliver it via the mail, rather than by wiggling your fingers at someone. Of course, that has downsides. A servant or courier could read the letter before delivering it to your intended target. Also realize that once a person has read this Love Letter, they are going to put it in their pouch/pocket to keep it close to them as they search for their onetruelove. The letter will almost never be read by more than one person, thereby negating one of your potential "pros" and moving it to the "cons" column.

Stalkers in love are creepy, bro.

Indeed, having been one, yes, we are, but unless the magical nature of the letter is known, someone might also show it to everyone they know to brag about how in love they are with the signer. Letters also get stolen, dropped, blow away in the wind... There are lots of possibilities.

 

[kitcik]

Also realize that once a person has read this Love Letter, they are going to put it in their pouch/pocket to keep it close to them as they search for their onetruelove. The letter will almost never be read by more than one person, thereby negating one of your potential "pros" and moving it to the "cons" column.

What if you post it in the town square under "notices"? Then it might be just a TAD powerful...

 

[kitcik]

Stalkers in love are creepy, bro.

Indeed, having been one, yes, we are.

Who did you stalk?