D&D 5E New Unearthed Arcana: Heroes of Krynn Revisited

WotC's Jeremy Crawford has announced a new Unearthed Arcana article today with redesigns from the prior Heroes of Krynn UA based on feedback, and in the following video he discusses that feedback and what's in the article:

• New iteration of Kender based on feedback survey, due to mixed response. This time is a back to basics, aiming to capture 1E AD&D fearlessness, curiosity and taunting skills. Delve into their origins from Gnomes in deep history.
• Kender are no longer fey creatures who grab objects from the Feywild
• Tweaked Feats from prior article
• Tweaked Backgrounds from prior article
• Brand new rule giving a list of free Feats for ANY Background
• Free Feat rule for Level 4 for all characters that doesn't take the ASI away, based on a curated list
• Reveals that in the Adventure, healing magic is already back.

Heroes of Krynn Revisited | Unearthed Arcana | Dungeons & Dragons

Explore updated character options from the Dragonlance setting! This playtest document presents revised races, subclasses, backgrounds, and feats.

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[GMforPowergamers]

Why, in a setting without clerics, when Magic was still powerful, would there be any tolerance for renegades at all?

why should anyone trust a cult that 1/3 of the member worship evil magic and wear black to show how evil they are? notice the white isn't trying to stop the black... but spending time trying to stop OTHER people from gettiing power even if those people are good.

Yes its a system of control, without a doubt, but the idea would seem to be self policing Magic users because they were (are? again I'm in the Chronicles/Legends era forever) potentially on a power level far beyond what the rest of the population could handle.

except it isn't 'stop evil magic users' it's 'as long as you join you CAN be an evil magic user.'

I mean do a bit of deconstruction, Wizards are pretty crazy, especially without Divine forces keeping them in check.

yeah becuse D&D is all casters rule and martials drool

The real world parallels and analogies will just get us in trouble but its honestly quite interesting to think about, to me.

there is no real world paralelle

 

[Scribe]

why should anyone trust a cult that 1/3 of the member worship evil magic and wear black to show how evil they are? notice the white isn't trying to stop the black... but spending time trying to stop OTHER people from gettiing power even if those people are good.

Because the setting in question, is about maintaining balance. Too much Good is bad, too much Evil is bad.

except it isn't 'stop evil magic users' it's 'as long as you join you CAN be an evil magic user.'

Correct, its about following the rules. Its about regulation of Magic to protect from people who would take power into their own hands.

yeah becuse D&D is all casters rule and martials drool

I mean...ok, DL is a pretty grounded setting, all things considered, so yeah Sturm swings a sword and Raistlin challenges the Gods.

there is no real world paralelle

I disagree very much so, but its all political and 'real world' and the thread is moving along fine.

 

[Medic]

ugh here we go

it's join us or don't be your class (remember most races can't switch classes, so just hope to never get xp again)

but they could just as easily not go after someone UNTIL they cause harm... it doesn't pass the smell test that "Only people we let into our cult can weild this power, and no one else can be trusted"

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but... what exactly is the problem with this? Medical professionals today (or at least, the ones that aren't pushing "alternative medicine") must have their abilities evaluated, become certified, and answer to a regulatory body if they wish to practice. I would certainly hope that no surgeon that is not held accountable by a strict institution would be free to cut people open "until" they cause harm.

 

[Micah Sweet]

everything can be improved doesn't mean nothing is good... it does mean nothing is perfect.

again the word progress... not even just social or mental understanding... just technology and hindesight.

lets say I make the best campaign setting I can. then I make another and another (not hard to imagine in the last 40ish years I have made dozens)
after making and running some, I have got more experence, and I could go back and remake that first one better.

Infact I HAVE done this. I have a campaign I have run in almost every edition (not 4th) and it has only gotten better with each attempt. (Now if I can just learn not to put the S.T.E.P. in)

why? I wasn't miserable reading comics in the 80's but I think that one written today are better.

It's the clear implication from your statement that everything just keeps getting better, so an older version of something is demonstrably worse than a newer version, that bothers me. As an example, a lot of the comics from the 80s are, in my judgement, much better than newer fare. That is such a sweeping judgement of the past vs. the present that anyone holding it is very hard for me to understand.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Because the setting in question, is about maintaining balance. Too much Good is bad, too much Evil is bad.

yeah sorry how is too much good a bad thing?

Correct, its about following the rules. Its about regulation of Magic to protect from people who would take power into their own hands.

that sounds pretty evil to me

I mean...ok, DL is a pretty grounded setting, all things considered, so yeah Sturm swings a sword and Raistlin challenges the Gods.

and if Raistlin (one of the few characters I know) is your go to for following rules BOY do we see thing different

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but... what exactly is the problem with this? Medical professionals today (or at least, the ones that aren't pushing "alternative medicine") must have their abilities evaluated, become certified, and answer to a regulatory body if they wish to practice. I would certainly hope that no surgeon that is not held accountable by a strict institution would be free to cut people open "until" they cause harm.

I do not have even the slightest bit of intrest in being a doctor. BUT if I did and I was told I had to go take a test that would put me into a group of good/evil/neutral doctors that are all allowed to be good/neutral/evil I would be VERY worried why good doctors are allowing evil doctors to do ANYTHING... especially if we can test for them.

I don't know about you but I would not want an evil (insert your profession here) club to be allowed at all.

 

[Scribe]

yeah sorry how is too much good a bad thing?

lol I mean its the basis of the setting!

that sounds pretty evil to me

Can I go pick up a gun, some riot gear, and police my local streets? We all cool with that?

and if Raistlin (one of the few characters I know) is your go to for following rules BOY do we see thing different

No, thats the point, he was essentially in all but name, (or maybe even branded as such) a renegade.

 

[UngainlyTitan]

Why, in a setting without clerics, when Magic was still powerful, would there be any tolerance for renegades at all? Yes its a system of control, without a doubt, but the idea would seem to be self policing Magic users because they were (are? again I'm in the Chronicles/Legends era forever) potentially on a power level far beyond what the rest of the population could handle.

I mean do a bit of deconstruction, Wizards are pretty crazy, especially without Divine forces keeping them in check.

The real world parallels and analogies will just get us in trouble but its honestly quite interesting to think about, to me.

The closest real world parallel that I am aware of would be the Office if the Holy Inquisition, which most modern people (even most Catholics) would consider morally wrong.
Furthermore the test to qualify to become an adult Catholic (the confirmation) involved knowing your Catechism as was not lethal. Even becoming a Doctor of Divinity did not result in fatalities.

The Test of High Sorcery does not pass the smell test. It dangerous for no good reason and allow evil mages to do what they like as long as they wear the appropriate robe (or at least are not caught too often being evil in the wrong robes). They get away with it in the stories in much the same way that J.K. Rowling gets away with the racism and classism of Wizarding society because it is a background detail and not part of the focus of the stories.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

It's the clear implication from your statement that everything just keeps getting better,

okay... over all I would agree. (I mean of course it isn't 100% true we back slide) overall things are better today than in 1998 and it was better in 1998 than it was in 1888.

so an older version of something is demonstrably worse than a newer version, that bothers me.

okay I admit to some rare exceptions, but howmany things have NOT been improved over time?

As an example, a lot of the comics from the 80s are, in my judgement, much better than newer fare. That is such a sweeping judgement of the past vs. the present that anyone holding it is very hard for me to understand.

I mean there were some great ideas... but if the writer got to sit down today and revisit them of COURSE they would be better... they have learned so much.

Having said that some writers did loose there mind and write All Star Batman and Robin... so I guess there are some exceptions, but over all I think most thing improve over time.


Even things we say 'used to be better' really were not. I say all the time "we don't build them to last" cause cars break down in 5 years wear they used to last 20, but those 5 years they run cleaner have better rides and have a ton of new tech to make them easier to use...

 

[GMforPowergamers]

lol I mean its the basis of the setting!

please show me were we see evil=good. I may have only read the first few novels and the basic book but even then the balance was never good=evil

Can I go pick up a gun, some riot gear, and police my local streets? We all cool with that?

I guess that depends on where you live. However I doubt ANYONE would be cool with testing cops for good/evil and just letting the evil ones have there own club....

No, thats the point, he was essentially in all but name, (or maybe even branded as such) a renegade.