No 5e threads for now, please

[Piratecat]

I'm afk for a week; I think we'll reopen non-edition-warry 5e threads once I'm back. Thanks for the reasoned, interesting discussions.

 

[CardinalXimenes]

I have serious doubts about any game support effort hinging on public input, especially one intended to harvest the "best" ideas from them. I think Ryan Dancey was fundamentally wrong about OGL encouraging iterative improvement of the game through public input, and I don't see the idea of an old-edition support system based on public submissions working out any better.

The chief problem is that none of us can agree on what constitutes "better". It's enough of a struggle to even form a consensus about which games are "more appropriate" for a particular end, let alone which among them are the best. Given the notorious difficulty of even identifying the defining features of older-edition D&D, I have small confidence that the masses will all fix on a coherent set of goals for their submissions.

 

[MichaelSomething]

What's lacking -- aside from occasional threads on ENWorld and the like -- is an easy way to separate the wheat from the chaff and quickly and easily monetize it. Add WotC - level production values to get the most out of your Print On Demand item, and I can't help but think it would do quite well for itself.

And that is the line between your "proposed wacky scheme" and viable business pratice.

WOTC is not intrested in looking over every 3PP product developed in order to find out what's good and what's bad. We, as a community, don't do enough to encourage/develop homebrew stuff. What do we need to do to ensure our great homebrewers get the kudos they deserve?

 

[I'm A Banana]

WOTC is not intrested in looking over every 3PP product developed in order to find out what's good and what's bad. We, as a community, don't do enough to encourage/develop homebrew stuff. What do we need to do to ensure our great homebrewers get the kudos they deserve?

Well, mostly my fever-dream-vision has it being a community thing. Maybe some sort of social currency system like "Yoinks": you make something someone else wants, they "yoink" it. You like something someone else made, you "yoink" it. The most "yoinked" items rise to the top, and then maybe a WotC staffer looks at the top one each month or week or something and does a Pro Game Design revision on it. Works something like a Digg system or a Twitter system: the more people Following your work, the more your stuff is probably worth a look-see.

There's also a potential payment element. If your stuff get used in a PoD book, you get a little stipend for it. You might never make a living off of it, but $5 here and there might add up to free membership, or a free PoD book, or, heck, just an extra set of breadsticks for your gaming group this weekend.

There's a lot of ways out there in the internet world to measure what people are doing. Heck, a good chunk of 'em are right at the top of the thread. Facebook it, Digg it, Tweet it, Yoink it (okay, that sounds unbelievably sexual, but I think you get the idea), whatever. I know I'd be more active with 4e stuff if I got something out of it, be it community huzzahs or $5 maybe each month, or WotC themselves coming down, looking at it, seeing that It Is Good, and tinkering with it themselves.

 

[xechnao]

Well, mostly my fever-dream-vision has it being a community thing. Maybe some sort of social currency system like "Yoinks": you make something someone else wants, they "yoink" it. You like something someone else made, you "yoink" it. The most "yoinked" items rise to the top, and then maybe a WotC staffer looks at the top one each month or week or something and does a Pro Game Design revision on it. Works something like a Digg system or a Twitter system: the more people Following your work, the more your stuff is probably worth a look-see.

There's also a potential payment element. If your stuff get used in a PoD book, you get a little stipend for it. You might never make a living off of it, but $5 here and there might add up to free membership, or a free PoD book, or, heck, just an extra set of breadsticks for your gaming group this weekend.

There's a lot of ways out there in the internet world to measure what people are doing. Heck, a good chunk of 'em are right at the top of the thread. Facebook it, Digg it, Tweet it, Yoink it (okay, that sounds unbelievably sexual, but I think you get the idea), whatever. I know I'd be more active with 4e stuff if I got something out of it, be it community huzzahs or $5 maybe each month, or WotC themselves coming down, looking at it, seeing that It Is Good, and tinkering with it themselves.

I am not sure but I think Blizzard is doing something like this with fanart. Also Bioware did what you are talking about with the NWN modding community and as with Dragon Age, the successor of NWN, a huge part of their business plan lies in developing the modding community and managing quality community content according to this interview:
GameSpy: Voices of Creation: The Dragon Age Builder Interviews - Page 1

Also Games Workshop does something of this sort with the Golden Demon event.

Wotc did try this with the OGL and Gleemax but both have failed for them.

 

[fanboy2000]

Thanks for the reasoned, interesting discussions.

Man, what's a guy gotta do to get a flame war around here?! If we keep this up, I may just go back to Usenet.

 

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[MichaelSomething]

Well, mostly my fever-dream-vision has it being a community thing. Maybe some sort of social currency system like "Yoinks": you make something someone else wants, they "yoink" it. You like something someone else made, you "yoink" it. The most "yoinked" items rise to the top, and then maybe a WotC staffer looks at the top one each month or week or something and does a Pro Game Design revision on it. Works something like a Digg system or a Twitter system: the more people Following your work, the more your stuff is probably worth a look-see.

There's also a potential payment element. If your stuff get used in a PoD book, you get a little stipend for it. You might never make a living off of it, but $5 here and there might add up to free membership, or a free PoD book, or, heck, just an extra set of breadsticks for your gaming group this weekend.

There's a lot of ways out there in the internet world to measure what people are doing. Heck, a good chunk of 'em are right at the top of the thread. Facebook it, Digg it, Tweet it, Yoink it (okay, that sounds unbelievably sexual, but I think you get the idea), whatever. I know I'd be more active with 4e stuff if I got something out of it, be it community huzzahs or $5 maybe each month, or WotC themselves coming down, looking at it, seeing that It Is Good, and tinkering with it themselves.

Okay, let me ask you one more question about your vision; do you acutally want to make it real? Sure, we can go back and forth for the next 20 pages talking about whether it would work or not but that won't make it happen. If you seriously think this will work, let's do it. Let's make it happen. I'll even help you do it.

 

[rounser]

This thread:
Bogleheads :: View topic - No More Bailout or Credit Crises Threads
...reminded me of this thread.

I think their elephant in the room dwarfs ours, though.

 

[Fifth Element]

This thread:
Bogleheads :: View topic - No More Bailout or Credit Crises Threads
...reminded me of this thread.

I think their elephant in the room dwarfs ours, though.

Rather. Especially when you consider that their elephant actually exists.