No Dice <Nerd Rage>

[Mistwell]

"Restrictive Third Party licenses = none of my money."

I am curious which RPGs people are playing, other than 3.x D&D and d20, that do not have restrictive third party licenses.

 

[Mark CMG]

"Restrictive Third Party licenses = none of my money."

I am curious which RPGs people are playing, other than 3.x D&D and d20, that do not have restrictive third party licenses.

Here's a link though FUDGE springs to mind as one of the most popular.

http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Open_Game_Systems

 

[Mistwell]

Here's a link though FUDGE springs to mind as one of the most popular.

http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Open_Game_Systems

There is a difference between "what games exist that have an open license, other than d20 games", and "what games are people [here] PLAYING that have an open license, other than d20 games".

Spirit of the Century and the Retro Clone AD&D/OD&D games are the only ones that come to mind for me for games I have ever seen people play. And the later is on shaky ground really, given it is based on material that had no open license to begin with.

Mark, what games are you playing that have an open license, and as a publisher yourself what games have you published that have an open license and are not d20 games?

It seems to me an awful lot of really good games do not have an open license (and many have no license at all for third parties), and yet for whatever reason I only see WOTC held to a standard of "must have a fully open license" for some folks to consider playing.

 

[Cor_Malek]

Um, people still get angry about spam? I mean, in a matter they would, but I thought everyone knows how it works? IE - you don't reply to spam, because the mails are used to send only.

And as to the "I won't buy it" part... Huh? So what you're saying is that this strategy is spot-on? They tried, and while it angered someone - they didn't lose actual client.
Even if it would make you resign of further purchases, believe me - there wouldn't be a tear shed. It's among basics of marketing - you sometimes have to lose clients to gain clients. As well as the fact that unhappy customer will inform at least two times more people than the happy one. And say what you will, but Hasbro marketing crowd knows their craft.
Plus, how they targeted it very well and hit a RPG gamer through "partners" spam clause* in someone elses business... The only expression I can imagine Wizards doing after reading that post is apparently called "Eiffel Tower" ;-)


*"I agree/want to get mail from [nameofcompany] business partners" - sounds familiar? Exactly how many registrations did you make and didn't care about this line? BTW - in 90% of cases you can uncheck it.


For the record - I don't actually disagree with points you've made - I simply feel it's not frown-, and much less - rage-worthy. Fight the man, though!

 

[Desdichado]

Is a girl who can't bare to voice her opinion.

I wish more girls would bare to voice their opinions, actually.

 

[fanboy2000]

Three questions:

1) Have you talked to any of the people who could have given Wizard's your email?

2) Has anyone else gotten these emails?

3) You said that the link didn't work, what happened when you clicked on it?

 

[Aus_Snow]

I wish more girls would bare to voice their opinions, actually.

As a bare minimum. Voice optional.

 

[am181d]

Please, don't be dramatic. I'm talking about members of the meetup group being shop owners that run games out of their stores, and how they are asked/"heavily incentivised" by WotC to spread their advertisements via social networking.

Add me to the list of people who don't get where you're coming from. You joined a meet-up group and you got an email about a meet-up event that's sponsored by WotC. Seems entirely reasonable to me.

Remember, the whole point of these kinds of lists is that any individual event won't appeal to everyone. Likely, someone else on the list found the info helpful, and odds are that you'll find an upcoming email about a different event helpful...

 

[Alzrius]

Seeing the new generation become so docile when a large corporation feeds us garbage and tells us it's anything but makes baby Satan cry. Where is the open disgust? The mutiny? The quality of their products saw a drastic drop in 4E yet for some reason, the spirit of [deleted] has not risen. So yes, a boycott is an excellent idea. Do yourselves a favor and find a d20 system online, made by someone who still loves the game, today.

I don't care for some of the things WotC does, but I don't care for trolling about it either.

 

[SteveC]

This is one of the things I just don't understand. WotC is trying to grow and expand the hobby of RPGs by running encounters. They're providing some great materials for game shops to run games and encourage people to come in and join our hobby. Is anyone else doing something on a level like this? Could anyone?

A simple reply to the group of "I'm not interested" would certainly have solved your situation, as would a polite comment the next time you're in the shop.

I don't particularly like Pathfinder (great people, just not my game system) but my FLGS has a "Pathfinder Encounters" game where they encourage people from middle and high school to come over and play every week. I've heard about it and been invited to help with it. It's not my game of choice, so I haven't gotten involved, but I say bravo for trying to do the hard work of making new gamers!

Getting angry at people who are trying to get more gamers into the hobby... sorry, no sympathy here. Don't like D&D 4? No problem. Delete email and go on with life.

--Steve