D&D 5E No Magic Shops!

[cbwjm]

I gotta say, I do agree with Shidaku. Blocking someone isn't cyberbullying. However, I do think that talking about someone after you have blocked them is bad form. Better to just block someone and move on with your life.

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[Maxperson]

I gotta say, I do agree with Shidaku. Blocking someone isn't cyberbullying. However, I do think that talking about someone after you have blocked them is bad form. Better to just block someone and move on with your life.

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Except that I never once claimed that it was cyber bullying to no longer allow me to converse with someone. In fact I have repeatedly stated that people should be allowed to not see my posts, which would prevent such conversation from happening.

 

[cbwjm]

Except that I never once claimed that it was cyber bullying to no longer allow me to converse with someone. In fact I have repeatedly stated that people should be allowed to not see my posts, which would prevent such conversation from happening.

Yeah sorry, all I had to go off was what was in your post (and the post you quoted). I know there is someone in the forums that claims being blocked is cyberbullying but guess that ain't you. I still think you shouldn't then talk smack about someone once you've blocked them.

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[Hussar]

Well, as this site doesn't belong to anyone blocking me, I have the same right to read their posts as they have to post.



True, but douchey sniping like you mentioned is only a problem if it's mod worthy. If it's not mod worthy, it's really sniping, it's just a response to a post. So mod the ones that are a problem and let the others just be as they aren't a problem.

And created a bigger pain in the ass for many posters here. Their system is broken.



Those are not really in the same league, and those changes didn't result in breaking the forum.

Well, that's true. You have the same rights. As in none. You have no rights. Zero. Flat out. This is a privately owned forum that you have chosen to sign in on. You, I and everyone else here have no rights.

It created a bigger pain in the ass for you. Please do not speak for "many" posters. I gotta admit, I prefer the new system. It cleans things up so much more nicely. But, really, instead of complaining about this to us, why are you not taking this to the Meta forum? They do respond quite well there. Most of your issues can be answered directly there.

 

[Maxperson]

It created a bigger pain in the ass for you. Please do not speak for "many" posters. I gotta admit, I prefer the new system. It cleans things up so much more nicely. But, really, instead of complaining about this to us, why are you not taking this to the Meta forum? They do respond quite well there. Most of your issues can be answered directly there.

Seriously? You enjoy not being able to go into entire threads because they were started by someone who blocked you? You enjoy not being able to go directly to a post that someone clicked exp or laugh on, because someone in the thread has you blocked and now the link is broken? You enjoy not being able to go directly to a post that someone quoted you in, because someone in the thread has you blocked and now the link is broken? You enjoy not being able to use the link in the post you just quoted to go back to that post, because it's now broken due to someone in the thread having you blocked? All of that brokenness isn't a bigger pain in the ass than not having it broken?

I'll stand by "It's a bigger pain in the ass for many posters here." thanks. If it's not a bigger pain in the ass for YOU, because you enjoy a bit of extra pain and suffering, that's fine. You fall into the category of people that is outside of that "many".

 

[Guest 6801328]

Seriously? You enjoy not being able to go into entire threads because they were started by someone who blocked you? You enjoy not being able to go directly to a post that someone clicked exp or laugh on, because someone in the thread has you blocked and now the link is broken? You enjoy not being able to go directly to a post that someone quoted you in, because someone in the thread has you blocked and now the link is broken? You enjoy not being able to use the link in the post you just quoted to go back to that post, because it's now broken due to someone in the thread having you blocked? All of that brokenness isn't a bigger pain in the ass than not having it broken?

I'll stand by "It's a bigger pain in the ass for many posters here." thanks. If it's not a bigger pain in the ass for YOU, because you enjoy a bit of extra pain and suffering, that's fine. You fall into the category of people that is outside of that "many".

Oh for crying out loud, Max.

There's a difference between "enjoying" those things and just not really caring all that much.

You were not bullied. I don't care whether you want to use the definitions currently being used by schools and courtrooms, or the dictionary definitions: neither applies to the inconvenience you so lament.

You were not forced to block the other person. You have not blocked the other person. They blocked you, with effects similar to those that would occur had you blocked them. But you were not, I repeat, forced to block them.

Yesterday my housekeeping service didn't show up on time. It was an inconvenience. I was disappointed. It didn't seem fair that my day was disrupted by their actions. I did not like it. I was not, however, bullied.

And the reason you should stop saying you were bullied is that bullying is a serious problem causing a lot of damage, and you are diminishing the seriousness of it with your whining and whingeing and crying.

 

[Maxperson]

Oh for crying out loud, Max.

There's a difference between "enjoying" those things and just not really caring all that much.

If he just didn't care all that much, it would still have been a bigger pain in the ass than if those things didn't exist. He has to actually like them for it not to be.

You were not bullied. I don't care whether you want to use the definitions currently being used by schools and courtrooms, or the dictionary definitions: neither applies to the inconvenience you so lament.

You can say that, but being forced to block the other person fits some of the definitions, as well as some of those sites you want to quote. A single instance is enough to establish bullying.

You were not forced to block the other person. You have not blocked the other person. They blocked you, with effects similar to those that would occur had you blocked them. But you were not, I repeat, forced to block them.

If I haven't been forced to block the other person, then I can go into a thread they created. Oh, wait. I can't. They don't appear on my blocked list, because if they did, I would be able to remove them.

Yesterday my housekeeping service didn't show up on time. It was an inconvenience. I was disappointed. It didn't seem fair that my day was disrupted by their actions. I did not like it. I was not, however, bullied.

And the reason you should stop saying you were bullied is that bullying is a serious problem causing a lot of damage, and you are diminishing the seriousness of it

Wrong. Just because my example is less serious than many out there, doesn't mean that I am diminishing the others. What you just claimed is the same as saying that people shouldn't complain about being punched just because others out there get beaten almost to death. Someone fighting back against a minor assault doesn't diminish the major ones. My fighting back against being bullied here by being forced to block people(not people blocking me) doesn't diminish the more serious examples of bullying.

 

[Guest 6801328]

If he just didn't care all that much, it would still have been a bigger pain in the ass than if those things didn't exist. He has to actually like them for it not to be.

No, he just has to dislike those inconveniences less than he dislikes the inconvenience of seeing your posts.

You can say that, but being forced to block the other person fits some of the definitions, as well as some of those sites you want to quote. A single instance is enough to establish bullying.

Not a single one of those definitions applies.

If I haven't been forced to block the other person, then I can go into a thread they created. Oh, wait. I can't. They don't appear on my blocked list, because if they did, I would be able to remove them.

No, Max. That's just idiotic. There are two reasons you might not be able to go into somebody's thread. One is that you blocked them. The other is that they blocked you. The two are not equivalent.

I can go to the store and buy milk and put it in my fridge. If I unexpectedly find milk in my fridge it doesn't necessarily mean I've been coerced to go to the store and buy milk.

Wrong. Just because my example is less serious than many out there, doesn't mean that I am diminishing the others. What you just claimed is the same as saying that people shouldn't complain about being punched just because others out there get beaten almost to death. Someone fighting back against a minor assault doesn't diminish the major ones. My fighting back against being bullied here by being forced to block people(not people blocking me) doesn't diminish the more serious examples of bullying.

Except you are 100% wrong that being blocked meets any definition of bullying. You are simply whining. There is a big difference. Grow a pair.

 

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[Sunseeker]

I know. Just making clear that it's not only page count or opportunity cost I'm opposed to; I think the idea itself is fundamentally flawed.

I think part of the flaw is there's no baseline in design for magic items themselves. There's no consistency to the power of them. While doing such a thing might cause magic items to feel more "gamey" it might do away with the need for a price list. Being able to reliably build magic items on the DM side that are balanced would also make it easier to price them.

I gotta say, I do agree with Shidaku. Blocking someone isn't cyberbullying. However, I do think that talking about someone after you have blocked them is bad form. Better to just block someone and move on with your life.

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To be fair, it could easily have gone the other way if Maxperson's posts were informative and constructive.