D&D 5E No Magic Shops!

[doctorbadwolf]

What a great example, and you totally refute your own position with it. When you are standing in a group conversation in real life and one person makes a point that you respond to, you are responding to the entire group in the process and the other 8 people there can all respond to what you say without intrusion into anything that is in any way private.

Nope. You’re responding g to the person you are...ya know...directly responding to. It being a group conversation means that other participants can chime in, but it doesn’t change the basic nature of replying to a statement.

 

[Maxperson]

Nope. You’re responding g to the person you are...ya know...directly responding to. It being a group conversation means that other participants can chime in, but it doesn’t change the basic nature of replying to a statement.

Yeeeaaaaaah, that's not how group conversations work.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

This is a blatant evasion. There was no hyperbole involved. Quite often before the ignore feature was changed to be abusive, I would respond to people who had blocked me, but put out an idea that I did or did not agree with. My response was to everyone in the thread, not to the person I was quoting.

So answer the questions. Why do you care if others are discussing something you brought up? Why is it a bad thing for someone to discuss an idea of yours with other people?

“Some horrific experience” is an attempt to hyperbolise my position in order to appear to be arguing against an exaggerated position.

Recognize that, and I’ll engage with your pointless question.

 

[Maxperson]

More abuse of the laugh button. Stop.

 

[cbwjm]

If only there was a way to stop him...

 

[FrogReaver]

“Some horrific experience” is an attempt to hyperbolise my position in order to appear to be arguing against an exaggerated position.

Recognize that, and I’ll engage with your pointless question.

Just wanted to point out to everyone that still wants to read my posts:

Hyperbole is used in an attempt to counter evasiveness. When an important question is avoided sometimes hyperbole get's used in order to paint the other's position in the worst light, not to argue against an exaggerated position but instead to try to get them to stop evading and thus explain their actual position.

 

[Maxperson]

Just wanted to point out to everyone that still wants to read my posts:

Hyperbole is used in an attempt to counter evasiveness. When an important question is avoided sometimes hyperbole get's used in order to paint the other's position in the worst light, not to argue against an exaggerated position but instead to try to get them to stop evading and thus explain their actual position.

And given the reactions from some posters here to having people respond when they can't see the response, it wasn't even very hyperbolic.

 

[Ovinomancer]

If only there was a way to stop him...

But, he might use the app!

 

[Ovinomancer]

The ignore function didn’t work very well at stopping the other person from being part of my forum experience. Several times I still had to deal with people who I had ignored, because they’d read my posts and quote or tag me in reply (I don’t remember which was possible, bc I don’t dwell on past forum mechanics). They’d also read my posts and go back and forth with others in the thread about them, etc.

IRL, you can close ranks in a group and shut someone out socially using body language and social cues. In a forum, you can’t. Block is the generally accepted internet alternative.

Also, a lot of folks find it make-ones-skin-crawl creepy when someone they have ignored or otherwise “cold-shouldered” online circumvents that to read their posts. My reaction isn’t that strong, but I frankly just care a lot more about their ability to use the forums without being skeeved out by a shadow creeper than I care about someone’s sense of entitlement to view all posts on the forum always.

Thanks for the reply.

It seems that you have a much more personalized view of forum posting than I or others. You seem to look at it as a conversation between friends in a social gathering where others may become friends. In this view, it's important to exclude the unwanted intrusion from the group, not just the individual. Block is more akin to a group shunning, at least from an individual point of view.

That said, is it possibke to grasp that others might have a different view of forums? That, instead of a group of friends it's instead an open square of strangers were ideas are discussed on thier merits and not thier speakers? Where block removes ideas from discussion unilaterally?

Which viewpoint should win with regards to blocking? Why should one point of view be prioritized? I don't have answers to these questions, but I think it's worth considering that the other side has a valid point of view and isn't arguing from bad intentions. This goes to both sides.

 

[Swarmkeeper]

The "view first" link is also broken due to the block feature. I often have to backtrack multiple pages after hitting view first.

I see, while what you describe appears not to be a significant problem for me, one can deduce that if you block - or are blocked by - many people, the accuracy of the “view first” link breaks down further.

Given that we currently need to exist within the current system as it is for now, warts and all, an individual contributor should strive to:

1. Minimize the number of people they block
And
2. Minimize the number of people blocking them

In such a way, an individual contributor can minimize the linking issue.