No Man's Land (Recruitment Closed... Sort of)

[Avalon®]

Jemal, how can you be a monk while CG? Is that ex-monk?

 

[Shayuri]

*BTW, Shayuri - Your shadowdancer with an AC in the mid 40's would have the same chance of hitting me as I have of hitting him(We both need nat 20's). And you deal more damage. How's that bad?*

-- I meant it as sort of a joke. Hence the at the end. I'm not nearly as sensitive as I sometimes accidentally seem.

Just to clarify my own position, since I've sort of argued both sides now, I haven't got a problem with anything so far. For the game as Dari has set it up, I think it should work out.

I most certainly think that it's premature to cry wolf. Lets actually play a bit before we set the thread aflame.

 

[Jemal]

Jemal, how can you be a monk while CG? Is that ex-monk?

actually that's a Typo, he's supposed to be LG

 

[Brother Allard]

Alright, I didn't reroll 1s. So let's try this again:

http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=973650

4d6 -> [6,6,6,5] = (23)
4d6 -> [1,3,2,4] = (10) -- reroll 1
4d6 -> [1,1,2,6] = (10) -- reroll 1x2
4d6 -> [4,5,6,6] = (21)
4d6 -> [2,1,3,1] = (7) -- reroll 1x2
4d6 -> [3,3,3,2] = (11)
4d6 -> [6,1,4,3] = (14) -- reroll 1


Rerolls: http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=973662

1d6 -> [4] = (4)
1d6 -> [2] = (2)
1d6 -> [4] = (4)
1d6 -> [2] = (2)
1d6 -> [4] = (4)
1d6 -> [6] = (6)

Applying those rolls in order, leaves:

4d6 -> [6,6,6,5] = (23) -> 18
4d6 -> [4,3,2,4] = (10) -- reroll 1 (4) -> 11
4d6 -> [2,4,2,6] = (10) -- reroll 1x2 (2 & 4) -> 12
4d6 -> [4,5,6,6] = (21) -> 17
4d6 -> [2,2,3,4] = (7) -- reroll 1x2 (2 & 4) -> 9
4d6 -> [3,3,3,2] = (11) -> 9 [dropped]
4d6 -> [6,6,4,3] = (14) -- reroll 1 (6) ->16

Total: 83

I didn't really do myself any favors there... proving, once again, that invisible castle hates me.

 

[Voidrazor]

Insight - I would prefer it if you used the term 'optimize' rather than 'twink'. I consider myself a pretty good roleplayer but my characters tend to be rather powerful. I don't like to step on other players toes, though. So even if I don't hold back on the build, I'll often take steps in game to make sure other characters get a chance to shine.

Lets face it, at 20th level balance is out the window. Core access to shapechange gives wizards melee abilities comparable to optimized fighters. But why get close when wizards have much better things to do?

That said, I'd be happy to offer you, or anybody else who's interested optimization advice.

 

[Kafkonia]

What's the starting wealth for 20th? My books are at home.

 

[Darimaus]

OK, this is where I draw the line. I don't want to see another post on this same argument clogging up this thread. If you want to spoiler it, go nuts. But seriously, no more "hes twinking" "no I'm not" "yes you are". This has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I'm doing here, so please, Knock It Off.

phew, that being said, its time from me to complete some Q+A. First and foremost, I've decided last night that I would really appreciate one little change in the way you guys are posting your characters. From now on, every spell and magic item on your character sheet needs to come with the book it was from, as well as the applicable page number.

Kafkonia - I believe its 760,000gp

Avalon® - No, because they are both Enhancement bonuses. Not that it's much of an issue though ,since I'm pretty sure you can get yourself a +6 Incarnate Weapon at this stage.

Necro_Kinder - If its in the rules (which I believe Draconomicon's got your back there) its acceptable. Looking foreward to you're build.

Rino - Also looking foreward to you're build.

Brother Allard - Also also looking forward to you're build

I'm due for dinner at my parents place in a few, so the number crunching I've done so far won't get posted until I return tonight. Don't work though, so it'll be up sooner than later.

 

[zeb.hillard]

phew, that being said, its time from me to complete some Q+A. First and foremost, I've decided last night that I would really appreciate one little change in the way you guys are posting your characters. From now on, every spell and magic item on your character sheet needs to come with the book it was from, as well as the applicable page number.

I'm fairly sure all of Salimesh's equipment is in the SRD, though I may be overlooking something (But I doubt it).

 

[Umbran]

Folks, please let me remind you that the #1 Rule around here is, "Keep it civil". Please try to avoid insulting other players or styles. If you feel you've been insulted, please don't respond in anger. If you can't be nice, just walk away from the keyboard for a while.

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[Kafkonia]

I'm leaning towards a Grey Elf Wizard 5/Archivist 5/Mystic Theurge 10 right now, although a Mr. "Critical Hit or Bust" is always tempting.