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D&D 4E No Roleplaying XP in 4e


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FadedC said:
I guess everyone has their own defintion of obscure. Certainly I had never heard of it, and I started playing with the red boxed set. I might argue that any OD&D supplement produced after AD&D had already taken over the market is by it's nature somewhat obscure.
If you didn't know what the Rules Encyclopedia was this is the Internet. Why not look it up and make an informed response. I know what Internet am I talking about where there are informed response?

The Rules Encyclopedia was a collection and expansion of that very same red boxed set you start playing with (as well as the whole B/X/C/M/I series of D&D boxsets). It had nothing to do with OD&D. In fact it was published in 1991 after 2e AD&D was available. TSR always had D&D and AD&D products.
As for the D&D thing, the original challenge was to look for examples in 1e, 2e, 3e or 3.5. So your nit pickng missed the point. Consdier yourself nit picked back :)
Go read the first post. There was no challenge and no limitation about 1e AD&D versus Basic D&D.
 

jmucchiello said:
If you didn't know what the Rules Encyclopedia was this is the Internet. Why not look it up and make an informed response.

If he has to look it up, that would tend to support the hypothesis that it's obscure, yes?
 


Original Article said:
I’ve seen a lot of games (both in early RPGA and home games) that gave XP for good roleplaying. By good roleplaying do I mean the quality of your character acting? The problem with the roleplaying reward is this: You’re almost always going to give out the maximum to everyone at the table.
For what it's worth, this is almost universally my experience in Living Greyhawk games over the past 3-4 years. I think it just feels petty sitting down and trying to decide how to allocate what amounts to 0-10% of the adventure XP based on something as subjective as roleplaying. To me, roleplaying is its own reward. I tend to enjoy games more when everyone roleplays well, both as a GM and as a player, but trying to support that via XP rewards seems kind of artificial. If it works for you, keep on doing it, but I disagree that it should the the default.
 

hong said:
If he has to look it up, that would tend to support the hypothesis that it's obscure, yes?
No, merely that HE doesn't know what it is. Being unknown to you and being obscure are not the same thing no matter how plugged into the topic at hand you believe you are (in this case D&D history). (And when I say you, I mean the generic you, not just hong.)

Regardless, I must correct myself. The original "challenge" wasn't issued in the original post but by Chairwoman Gene several posts down and she only listed 1e, 2e, 3e and 3.5e. I will presume though that RCD&D and earlier boxset D&D's were just an oversight on her part.
 

hong said:
If he has to look it up, that would tend to support the hypothesis that it's obscure, yes?

Actually, I did not have to look the rules up to know what they were. Not obscure at all. Every core rule set has included guidance on RP XP since.

I was answering a challenge to cite the rules specifically, so I did so by snipping the text from my PDFs of the books. BTW, I can't find any mention of RP XP prior to the Rules Cyclopedia (1991).
 

In my opinion Role-Playing is such an integral part of the game it needs no EXTRA XP rules.

You RP when you pick up your adventure hooks
You RP while you travel to the location
You RP while you are fighting the monsters
You RP while you avoid the traps
You RP while you divy up the treasure

You get your XP for the encounters, be they Quests, Skill Challenges, or Combats.

Plenty of RP XP there.

Fitz
 

jmucchiello said:
If you didn't know what the Rules Encyclopedia was this is the Internet. Why not look it up and make an informed response. I know what Internet am I talking about where there are informed response?

The Rules Encyclopedia was a collection and expansion of that very same red boxed set you start playing with (as well as the whole B/X/C/M/I series of D&D boxsets). It had nothing to do with OD&D. In fact it was published in 1991 after 2e AD&D was available. TSR always had D&D and AD&D products.
Go read the first post. There was no challenge and no limitation about 1e AD&D versus Basic D&D.

Actually I did look it up which should have been obvious from the fact that I commented on exactly what it was and when it was written. That was how I knew it was obscure, at least by my definition. And a book that compiles the rules of OD&D definitely has everything to do with OD&D. The fact that it was written after 2e was released and few people played OD&D anymore only makes it more obscure.

And Blindogre gave that rules reference in response to this request from Charwoman Gene
"Please show me the codified rules for roleplaying XP in 1e,2e,3e, or 3.5e."
So obviously something from OD&D doesn't count.
 


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