Non-Core Class Survivor: Round 4

Which class do you want to vote off the list?

  • Ardent (Complete Psionics)

    Votes: 17 8.6%
  • Archivist (Heroes of Horror)

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • Artificer (Eberron Campaign Setting)

    Votes: 8 4.1%
  • Beguiler (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Binder (Tome of Magic)

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Dragon Shaman (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 25 12.7%
  • Dread Necromancer (Heroes of Horror)

    Votes: 6 3.0%
  • Duskblade (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Favored Soul (Complete Divine)

    Votes: 8 4.1%
  • Hexblade (Complete Warrior)

    Votes: 20 10.2%
  • Incarnate (Magic of Incarnum)

    Votes: 17 8.6%
  • Knight (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 8 4.1%
  • Lurk (Complete Psionics)

    Votes: 7 3.6%
  • Ninja (Complete Adventurer)

    Votes: 11 5.6%
  • Psion (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 6 3.0%
  • Psychic Warrior (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 5 2.5%
  • Scout (Complete Adventurer)

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • Shadowcaster (Tome of Magic)

    Votes: 4 2.0%
  • Shugenja (Complete Divine)

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Soulknife (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 7 3.6%
  • Spirit Shaman (Complete Divine)

    Votes: 8 4.1%
  • Totemist (Magic of Incarnum)

    Votes: 5 2.5%
  • Warlock (Complete Arcane)

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • Warmage (Complete Arcane)

    Votes: 7 3.6%

  • Poll closed .
Stalker0 said:
Doesn't the knight have like 1 aggro ability? The rest of it just gives him bonuses or instills fear or makes him immortal...you know the usual stuff:)

And then there's the silly CoC. You can't flank or attack a flat-footed opponent. Where's the rule saying you can't have an Int above 9?
 

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(Psi)SeveredHead said:
And then there's the silly CoC. You can't flank or attack a flat-footed opponent. Where's the rule saying you can't have an Int above 9?

Actually, you CAN attack a flat footed opponent, a prone opponent, a flanked opponent, or a unarmed opponent. The penalty? 1 use of your "Knight's challenge" ability per violation, and you regain all your challenges each time you rest, so no real problem there. Furthermore, there's nothing preventing you from providing a flanking threat (so the rogue doesn't have to suffer) just as long as you don't take the +2 bonus.

As for the "silly CoC" might i remind you of the completely undefined Paladin's Code of Conduct? I've Met GM's who insisted that admiring a pretty girl was enough to break a paladin's vows. At least with the knight, you have a clear, well defined thing that is obvious for what you are getting into.
 


I like most of the classes….
The lurk was a bit disappointing though, so she’s got to go.

Given the hexblades wild unpopularity I’m surprised he’s still around. But I’m not one to kick someone when they’re down.
 

Wow, I really don't understand the hate for the Hexblade. I am currently playing one (9th level) and loving it. The hexblade curse has reduced a number of powerful monsters and villians to one round mop up jobs. Admittedly, we use a 32 point buy, so our campaign is a bit more powerful than the standard, but I have never once felt that the Hexblade was a weak class.

Now, the archivist, yuck. I just can't get into playing a trumped up librarian.

BD
 


Aus_Snow said:
Dragon Shaman? Off with its head.

What's wrong with a trumped up librarian though, eh? ;)
Yeah, my Archivist in Shackled City has Cleric's Vestments for when she mingles with the priests of her deity, who accept that she is a visiting cleric, and a scholar's outfit for when she studies with her friends in the Blue Crater Academy (which she actually managed to join midway through Life's Bazaar). And she does indeed act the librarian sometimes, but it's a lot of fun, and it found us some useful info. Her current project is fixing those poor semi-broken constructs she found. They're so cute!
 

Incarnate.

anyclass that requires a complete overhaul of the cosmology of the champaign world, an additonal magic system, and requires the additon of new races to make the best of it.....
 

My goal is to get that warmage out of there. But, it looks like he keeps ducking and weaving. Sigh. Away with you utterly useless class that does nothing for a party.
 


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