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[NSFW] A Chilling Connection Between D&D, Myth, And The Real World.

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Luminous

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I was browsing through my D&D collection and I came across the Demon Lord Abraxas, Master of the Final Incantation, also known as Abrasax or Abracax.
I know a lot of RPG demons are drawn from myth, but this is too much. You'll see why.

"ABRAXAS
CE male demon lord of forbidden lore, magic, and snakes
Unholy Symbol demonic face with two snake tails descending from a mouth encircled by a serpent"
-Pathfinder Book of the Damned

Before I go on, I want to iterate: THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH QANON. I know some of you are already moving your cursors to "Ban" but please read on!

Does this sound familiar?
[Wikipedia]: "'These men, moreover, practise magic, and use images, incantations, invocations, and every other kind of curious art. Coining also certain names as if they were those of the angels, they proclaim some of these as belonging to the first, and others to the second heaven; and then they strive to set forth the names, principles, angels, and powers of the 365 imagined heavens.


— Adversus hæreses, I. xxiv. 5; cf. Epiph. Haer. 69 D; Philastr. Suer. 32'"


"'As a demon'
The Catholic church later deemed Abraxas a pagan god, and ultimately branded him a demon as documented in J. Collin de Plancy's Infernal Dictionary, Abraxas (or Abracax) is labeled the "supreme God" of the Basilidians, whom he describes as "heretics of the second century". He further indicated the Basilidians attributed to Abraxas the rule over "365 skies" and "365 virtues". In a final statement on Basilidians, de Plancy states that their view was that Jesus Christ was merely a "benevolent ghost sent on Earth by Abraxas".[8]"

So I've gone through D&D, and mythological demonology. What does this have to do with the real world?
Far too much. Bad, bad stuff that I don't want to recall, on any site.
But I'll go through the content I can handle. This information is copied from the following article released in 1998 (but it's still going on). There are many other sources that cover this, but I didn't want to go any farther down the demon rabbit-hole.
Source: https://cwasu.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Confronting-An-Atrocity.pdf

Marc Dutroux was a Satanic priest that repeatedly raped and tortured at least 6 girls and young women.

"One press report (Sunday Express 12.1.97) referred to suspected links between Dutroux and the self-styled Satanic Order of Abrasax based in southern Belgium. A letter found in the house of accomplice Bernard Weinstein (who Dutroux admits he drugged and buried alive) referred to the group and to the need to continue to procure ‘presents’ - in the form of human beings - for the High Priestess of the Order. The media were asked to withhold this information for many months. A raid on the group ‘temple’ - an anonymous cottage - resulted in seizure of hundreds of videotapes, racks of computer discs, two human skulls and jars of animal blood."

Does anyone else think D&D has gone too far? AND IS THIS CREEPY AS HELL?
 

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Dannyalcatraz

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Satanic Panic Part Deus...errrr...Deux?

Yes, a lot of D&D extraplanar powers were drawn directly from RW faiths and myths. Some were pretty nasty. Those were generally made into evil extraplanar powers.

Abraxas isn’t anything special.
 




billd91

Hobbit on Quest
There’s really no “here” here. Some obscure Belgian criminal happens to claim he was some kind of devil worshiper and the same devilish name happens to be used in a role playing game.
 





Luminous

Legend
Real question: do you remember the Satanic Panic? 1980s?
Yeah, and it's pretty ironic. Satanism was so small (relatively), and we panicked. Now it's Gargantuan, and we're
Ignoring La La La GIF
 

Dannyalcatraz

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There are horrible people in the world. Sometimes, they, their inspirations and their actions get mirrored in RPGs.

The only connection between this guy and D&D is “Abraxas”. At least, that’s all you’ve presented.
 




I've got a friend who had to travel to the Wizarding World of Harry Potter in secret, and lie to her parents about where she was taking a vacation, and make sure none of her friends posted any photos of her, because her parents were 'good Christians' who treated their daughter like shinola because she liked fantasy.

Magic isn't real, and if you're concerned about fantasy inspiring people to do bad things, maybe look first at all the bigoted political ideologies out there trying to convince people to commit violence against group X or Y, rather than seeing them as people. Heck, if you worry about people being in danger, go buy some hand sanitizer and wear a face mask. You'll be doing something more meaningful than fearing an imaginary monster.

Language, please.
 
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Sepulchrave II

Adventurer
Luminous said:
Does this sound familiar?
[Wikipedia]: "'These men, moreover, practise magic, and use images, incantations, invocations, and every other kind of curious art. Coining also certain names as if they were those of the angels, they proclaim some of these as belonging to the first, and others to the second heaven; and then they strive to set forth the names, principles, angels, and powers of the 365 imagined heavens.


— Adversus hæreses, I. xxiv. 5; cf. Epiph. Haer. 69 D; Philastr. Suer. 32'"

I think you'll find that Epiphanius - and Irenaeus - had a certain axe to grind, and their judgment of rival sects was a little partisan.

Unfortunately, we don't have any sources from the groups which actually venerated this (Aeon? God? Archon?) as they were mysteriously burnified in the 3rd and 4th centuries. :unsure:
 

nevin

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this is why studying myths gets so tricky. The Greeks borrowed from the Etruscans, the Romans from the greeks. Artemis for instance was an Asian diety, still a huntsman but with a consort. She turned into Zues's virgin daughter for the greeks. Other religions have been stealing ideas that won't die and changing them as long as people have had their myths.
 


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