Off to War (always recruiting) OCC Year 2:

[Dragonwriter]

He can be a bit of a hypocrite, but one of the two things he will use his standing on, is avoiding "being pout in his place" Wanting to prove himself dos not, by any mans, extend into letting others give him belittling tasks. More then just a few commoners of rank higher then what he joined as would love to see a noble clean out the stables.
So he sees it more as equalizing things then abusing his station.

While mucking all the horses may be a bit much, doing the duties for his own is hardly being humiliated/put in his place, certainly in my opinion. And you do realize Alexander's perspective isn't really capable of influencing the perspectives of others...

Also, even if he did make them shovel manure through his title, it would not be for his advantage: it would be for their punishment. Perfectly legit! XD

Taking advantage of his station is still the same act, regardless of the consequences.

So in general, don't try using rank to bully him around (or to send him somewhere to get killed for that matter) and he wont use his title to dance laughingly on top of your head :3

I think you didn't intend for this statement to sound like a command, but the choice of phrasing makes it seem one. And I'm responding to it with such a belief...
My intent in asking the rank of Jareth's father was more to cement my own knowledge. There's been relatively little dealing with the specifics, only Lord Vance insisting on calling Jareth by the name "Lord Kyras". Even after several times being asked not to.
Part of it stems from Jareth's partial contempt for his father and the perceived stain on his honor. He hasn't talked about his nobility, and unless someone really pries, he isn't likely to do so. The other part of it is Jareth's strong preference to rely on his own skills and training, which he has done (pretty well, in my opinion).

And yesh, Nobles can be of very thin blood, but consider Alexander like this, he is either of the highest reaches of nobility, or a relatively minor royal, if I knew more about the world I would figure out were he stands in the line of succession in any given kingdom, dukedom or countship: would not be too high in most cases, but far enough up the latter that he could foreseeable gain more then just his own inheritance if the noble houses get thinned to much in the war. but that is not likely, just possible.

437th in line for the crown, you mean?
It shall be interesting to see how your character develops... His overblown self-importance will likely grate on Jareth... You may have noticed he's not fond of anyone's arrogance and isn't afraid to start one helluva fight (like antagonizing a 16th-level LE Wizard ).

So yesh, he is among the elite but he is not taking a retainer of honor guards around with him as he could be.

"Elite by blood" you mean... He has yet to prove his actual worth.

BTW, I feel the need to note I'm not trying to dictate how to play your character. I'm merely observing and debating (which I find fun). If you want me to stop, please say so.

BTW HM, not sure if you caught it in my editing above, but I'm going to gone from tomorrow afternoon/evening until next Monday.

 

[HolyMan]

I caught it.

That's why I posted things ahead today and didn't wait. After a year and a half I think I can NPC Jareth pretty well.

Trust me.

HM

 

[Dragonwriter]

I caught it.

Just double-checking. I like to cover my rear when it comes to such things...

After a year and a half I think I can NPC Jareth pretty well.

Trust me.

Uh huh, like with the whole hydra debacle? (Just teasing )

He's still a bit shaken being underground again... His last stay in a cave, however short, definitely had a severe effect on him (plus watching the death of the person who just saved Jareth's life) and wasn't long ago, IC. Hence the bits about his tensing up, recent memories, etc. He really doesn't want a repeat of events.

(Oh, and don't forget, antagonize 16th-level LE Wizards whenever possible! )

 

[Zerith]

Oh, I much like it DW, keeps me honest and helps me keep things in prospective, and I also love debates :3
Also, if they only asked him to clean up after his own horse he might just grumble and then just get it over with (spells make messy work less messy ^_^) but they were asking him to take care of every horse in the entire camp, effectively making him a stable boy: you can't prove anything to anyone by being a stable boy and Alexander knows that. (at lest, he can't prove what he wants to prove by doing so)

And all he has done so far is threaten them; their using their postion to threaten him, and he is not readily intimidated and he also has a rank that can overshadow theirs. if they were only being jerks he would stat his title, as is his custom in any situation, maybe give a rant, and then it would be over and done with, but giving him demeaning orders when he is not in their command structure is just bagging Alexander to throw it back in their faces: he could have said he was a irregular and their not, meaning they would have to go to a supremer officer to give him a command anyways, but he figured he would just stomp down the idea brutally and laugh at their faces... Yesh, he can be a butt.

That said, don't use your rank to aggravate him and he will do the same; leaving him saying his title as little more then being a braggart.

 

[ghostcat]

[MENTION=84167]HolyMan[/MENTION] You may like dice but they really hate me On a more serious note. I am toying with the idea of making Trinham more of a caster but I haven't found a PRc that I really like. Current plan is to see what his sixth level HP roll is and then decide on his future path.

As far as nobles are concerned; Trinham is a country bumpkin and (apart from Jareth, who he has never considered to be a noble) the only noble he has had any significant contact with is Vance. Who confirmed all his prejudices about nobles. So depending on Alexander's attitude (if and when he meets him) he will either "yes sir, no sir" him whilst tugging his forelock and giving him the finger behind his back or just ignore the fact that he is a noble; like he does with Jareth.

 

[HolyMan]

HAHA

And that would be playing in character and I would probably double your XP for any post your character gave the "bird" to. LOL

HM

 

[jackslate45]

So, being to used to Pathfinder, I forgot that in 3.5 banned schools = cannot cast period...

HM, can i switch light for prestidigitation? as I should not even have access to the spell...

 

[Zerith]

Alexander is a butt about somethings, he likes his name, and his tittle, and he will always introduce himself with his tittle; that said he wont generally evoke it unless he is told to do something that he finds to be beneath himself; for example, he is basically one of/the camp translator, and you don't have translators clean out the stables for no reason. So while he dos not want to build him self up with his title, he also dose not want to be a whiping boy; and he also tends to be preventive when he senses buffoonery.

Also, one of the reasons he won't talorate cleaning out filth is simple, he whats desperately to become better then what his brother was (even if in his mind he knows he can't become his brother's better) and such work only proves to him that he is his brothers lesser, as an aggravatingly many things do.


... were is Spade?

 

[Fangor the Fierce]

Ok, on the current situation, Mal can have up to 175 pounds as heavy load. Hopefully nobody is over that, and can shed some gear to get to it if needed. Then he will 'carry' each person down, using the rope around his waist. They climb down the rope, while he climbs down as well. There is nothing in Spider Climb that states about not able to carry a heavy load, or even with 'dragging' someone, which would be even a higher capacity.

HM - Ruling?

 

[HolyMan]

Go ahead jackslate45 I missed it too as I am heavy into PF and get things twisted as well.

Will update tonight whether or not we hear from him Zerith. I'll NPC him.

I think I will allow that FtF as you could have just gear and plate or what not and still climb about. The drop is a way to get a little more RP before the end of the month and XP and then I'll advance as you search the area.

HM