Off to War - canceled

[jackslate45]

Also have you seen the description of Skazul's library in Battle at Harkon Manor? Talk about getting spells

HM

Not yet. I have yet to read through that IC (got O2W and K2V done)

 

[Dragonwriter]

Mostly I didn't want to b killed for making Jareth a Baron. The wish lists were so the same it was hard for me to decided who should get what first. (see below)

He might try to kill you if he knew others were controlling events. But I think it's quite an interesting development.

Is that another reference to the hydra???

Maybe. (I can be a pit bull with some things. )
If it makes you feel better, some monsters really are just too strong for their apparent CR. The critter I mentioned building up a while back got its fight last night... And this monster (Horned Devil advanced to 21 HD and Huge size - CR 20) absolutely mopped the floor with the party. It should have been within their realm of defeating, by the CR numbers, but the rolls made it untouchable, extremely heavy-hitter and all-around death machine. It would've been TPK if I hadn't thrown Plot and Deus Ex Machina at it (realized only after 7 rounds of meat grinder, 3 or so of which it spent out of the fight, tempting and taunting the PCs).

Thanks it was a long process getting all that together and figuring out. Glad you liked it and didn't mind my taking over Jareth like I did.

The little bit you used him for did fit his reactions, so I don't mind.

A pearl of power is prepared only? Odd that.<SNIP>
Maybe they thought in the hands of someone with a lot of spells per day shouldn't have it?

Yep, prepared only. The reasoning may have had to do with the Sor's spell slots, while preparation-casters would expend their battle spells, while having to keep slots filled with utility and buff spells. A Pearl would let them recover one of those battle spells and keep on going.

a potent aid to all spellcasters who prepare spells (clerics, druids, rangers, paladins, and wizards). Once per day on command, a pearl of power enables the possessor to recall any one spell that she had prepared and then cast. The spell is then prepared again, just as if it had not been cast.

Emphasis mine. I agree it was an odd choice to limit it to just them, when it's a Core item. Similarly odd are a number of rules clauses (like Rogue's not being allowed to Sneak Attack if they can't see clearly - shadowy illumination - one of the chief ways Rogue is capable of setting up a Sneak Attack).

 

[ghostcat]

Would he be the "key speaker" in situations or use it more like aid another? I think the later to start and then he would develop on his own.

I think you are right. Trinham needs to ease his way into this.

Trinham is due to level up and I'm not sure if he gets a new zero level spell or not. When he does would you be willing to give up a new known spell (zero lvl) to gain Diplomacy and Know(Nobility) as class skills?

Battle Sorcerers only get 1st and 2nd level spells at 7th level. They don't get a new 0th level spell at 8th level. So I can either borrow Dipolmacy at 7th or wait uptil 8th.

It should be sustenance. I figured giving it to Trinham gives your main caster the advantage of needing less rest between regaining spells. And I hope ghostcat will play up Trinham's new found need not to eat.

This should be fun.Trinham likes his food. Now I just have to puzzle out how to play this.

A pearl of power is prepared only? Odd that. You need to first cast a spell and then activate the item (a standard action) so you can't do so in the same round. So why wouldn't a spontaneous caster benefit from that. That clause will be negated and changed to any spellcaster. Maybe they thought in the hands of someone with a lot of spells per day shouldn't have it?

I think Dragonwriter has the right of it. Spontaneous casters can always reuse spells so the ability to recover a spell that they have just cast isn't that useful. Apart from gaining an extra third level spell that is.

 

[HolyMan]

Thanks DW I think after the few years of DMing Jareth I feel I have his character down somewhat and that is always a good feeling. Now I know what to through at him to bring him to his knees. LOL

Tough monster and bad dice - not a very good mix for a party of adventurers.

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ghostcat is that a yes to losing the zero known for the class skills swap? If so then you could take and at lvl 7 put two points in diplomacy for 1 rank. And then at 8th lvl it would switch up to a class skill noting Trinham becoming better at it.

The pearl will work for Trinham but remember it will recall the last 3rd lvl spell you casted and thinking about it you would need to cast it the following round as a sorcerer doesn't keep spells in his head.

So I guess a drawback would be if you don't use the spell then it slips away again.

Are you ok with this limitation?

HM

 

[Dragonwriter]

Thanks DW I think after the few years of DMing Jareth I feel I have his character down somewhat and that is always a good feeling. Now I know what to through at him to bring him to his knees. LOL

I think he's been brought to his knees more often in the last month of RP than in the rest of the nearly-two-years I've been playing him.

Tough monster and bad dice - not a very good mix for a party of adventurers.

He'd still retreat from a Hydra. They're a vicious foe, and fast healing would quickly negate any damage done. IMO, they're a bad example of a puzzle-monster, one you must use a very specific set of tactics to defeat. And those tactics are rarely utilized by PCs, because Sunder is generally looked at as only good for destroying treasure.

Now, I've got no problem with puzzle-based encounters. It's just when the puzzle is so narrow, contrived and easily stacked against the PCs that it bothers me. Really, look at what the Sunder action entails/requires and you'll soon see it's a huge pain to attempt without Improved Sunder and an Adamantine Weapon (thanks to Hardness just soaking most of the damage you will deal).

The pearl will work for Trinham but remember it will recall the last 3rd lvl spell you casted and thinking about it you would need to cast it the following round as a sorcerer doesn't keep spells in his head.

So I guess a drawback would be if you don't use the spell then it slips away again.

Are you ok with this limitation?

HM

FWIW, the Memento Magica (mentioned above, WotC's later printing of a Spontaneous Caster's Pearl of Power) just gave the caster back one of their used spontaneous spell slots. Doing such a thing would probably be a lot easier than keeping track of this limitation.
(And the Memento was designed to look like a crystal dragon scale. )

 

[ghostcat]

ghostcat is that a yes to losing the zero known for the class skills swap? If so then you could take and at lvl 7 put two points in diplomacy for 1 rank. And then at 8th lvl it would switch up to a class skill noting Trinham becoming better at it.

OK. I'll go with this.

The pearl will work for Trinham but remember it will recall the last 3rd lvl spell you casted and thinking about it you would need to cast it the following round as a sorcerer doesn't keep spells in his head.

So I guess a drawback would be if you don't use the spell then it slips away again.

Are you ok with this limitation?

HM

So does this keep the "once per day" limit. Meaning that once a day he can re-cast a 3rd level spell the round after he cast it, without cost.

I must admit, I am not too enchanted with this but looking back. Trinham does seem to cast the same spells in successive rounds.

 

[Zerith]

finally got a lap topy! ^_^
Anyways, I should be posting as per normal soon, ish, I'm on a gaming binge right now you see... ^_^;
[things look nice when they boom!]

 

[HolyMan]

Yes it is once per day. Sorry you don't like the limitation - the getting a slot back seemed just a little off to me. You are recalling a spell that you just casted and since your a sorcer and don't keep spells in your head you would need to 'get rid of it'.

Now that I think on it that may not work out to well. It would be...

Rd1: cast 3rd lvl spell
Rd2: activate magical item
Rd3: cast same 3rd lvl spell as round 1

Hmmm... when do you get another third lvl spell? I can see this being useful for like protections or before going some place dangerous.

"Trinham cast Bear's Endurance on himself and then uses the pearl to cast it again on Jareth." Or something like that. In combat it may take a little more stratagem.

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Glad you will be keeping up with us Zerith.

HM

 

[ghostcat]

Trinham won't get another 3rd level spell until 9th level.

 

[Megan Voss]

Thanks HM for the great campaign. I had lots of fun.

I'm picking up a second job here at home to pay my bills, so I can't really stick around and play. Sorry guys. RL sucks right now.

You guys were all great though. Made a girl feel special. Here's wishing you all hugs and kisses! Muh!

Bye bye and TTFN. Ta ta for now!

-Megs