Off To War... Recriutment/Discussion


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I had ALWAYS planned for Aidan to slowly unlock magic in his blood. It's why I mentioned he had distant ties to nobility. My idea was that dragon blood was long passed through the nobility of the area, generally watered down. Aidan happens to have enough of it to manifest supernatural gifts(or spells).

Oh, HM. Aidan has no rations. He was not prepared for traveling separated from the camp as none had told him to supply his own rations(militaries usually provide those for their men.)

Claude is in the same problem at the moment since I believed that we would be alongside a military force for the entire time, I think we will be all right though as long as Moggins keeps with the senseless killing of fuzzy animals :p

I knew you didn't have any food (lol) but your friends have a little extra go ahead and RP it guys. :p

Also on builds, I will do my best to help accomidate :cool:

HM
 

I'm starting to think the biggest 'powergaming' problem I am having is the fact that Dragon Disciple does nothing with spellcasting. Due to that, at the highest levels, Aidan will only be capable of casting 3rd level spells at best, which most certainly does not qualify as a true hybrid... granted, he becomes MUCH stronger physically, and can fly.

Armor would not really fit what I had in mind for Aidan, as he was meant to be more of an agile unarmored combatant who used his wits and such to get by. So, I'm not precisely sure what would be good for him to pursue. There is a Monk/Spellcasting PrC in Complete Arcane, but I could not pursue both it AND Dragon Disciple to their ends(both are 10 level PrC's).

HM, would there be some form of tradeoff I could get with Dragon Disciple to allow it to progress casting progression? Perhaps losing the bonus spells and getting half (3 or 4) levels of casting progression?
 

Hmmm.... looking over the DD PrC we could weakin it and strengthin it at the same time.

Now this is just a real quick go over (I need to go make dinner) but I think we could take down all the ability boosts by 1, and decrease the natural armor bonus by one (so new max is +3), change the breath weapon dmg from d8s to d6s and for that you could change bonus spells to +1 existing arcane spellcasting level

Let me know what you think.

HM
 

Heheh i just remembered that Lora is still only human - and an 18 year old girl at that! Added some hormone induced mixed feelings, this will help her grow i think :)

Oh, on an unrelated note, i decided to take that level in ED at CLVL 6 instead of going with six levels of Wizard. I don't think that a point in Will and Dex saving throws are better than +1 BAB and 4HD. So there :)

Theroc if you need help with Aidan's planning i can look stuff up for you, especially if you are lacking sources.

HM, do you still need the full writeup on Duskblade from the PHB2?
 

Only when you find the time ML (and thanks in advance)

btw ML I'm guessing I didn't explain the level up post in the RG correctly as you put in another post but what I was looking for was a single post with all your level ups in it. And another post in the RG for character background (with links to these in your main character sheet.

So your lvl up post would look like this:

[sblock=Level 2] Upgrades and changes [/sblock]

[sblock=Level 3] Upgrades and changes [/sblock]

[sblock=Level 4] Upgrades and changes [/sblock]


And what I was talking to Theroc way back was another part of the RG where you list/talk about personality changes and why the character has a "new" trait, quirk or other chang from the original. Still a work in process this is.

So if you could please put your lvl 3 changes in with your lvl 2 ones I don't want them scattered all over.

HM
 

Heheh i just remembered that Lora is still only human - and an 18 year old girl at that! Added some hormone induced mixed feelings, this will help her grow i think :)

Heh, yeah, Aidan's not too refined yet. After all, he was just a farmboy.


M&L said:
Theroc if you need help with Aidan's planning i can look stuff up for you, especially if you are lacking sources.

I'm not sure if I'd say I'm exactly lacking resources so much as a plan for how to maximize his build. My sig shows my sources. I basically can never access that rarely section, as they are at my ex-girlfriend's library which is like 80 miles away.

I had thought perhaps a mesh of Monk, Sorcerer, enlightened fist, and Dragon Disciple, but I'm not certain. Aidan's meant to be a flighty skirmisher with a few tricks up his sleeve to handle a headon fight. So far I'm trying to gauge whether he'll actually be of use in a fight, as he tends to get taken out pretty quickly. Granted, makes decent character development as he is questioning his own ability to make his destiny.

So, yes I would say I need help. :P

HM, your compromise is something I'd think on, but am not certain of yet, as he'd obviously take a huge hit on his ability scores(as well as still taking the BAB hit) while gaining more spellcasting. Something to think on.
 

HM: edited the lvl up post as requested. Also, i have a Level Advancement tab that you can check as well. If you'd like me to, i can add in the reasons i've stated for Lora gaining new abilities.

Theroc: Let me look in to it. HM is agianst "dipping" in classes to gain powerful features i think. Otherwise you can't go wrong with 2 levels of Paladin for a CHA based caster.

[sblock=DUSKBLADE]Directly from PHBII

The duskblade blurs the line between spellcaster and warrior, marrying the power of magic with hand-to-hand combat prowess.

A student of ancient elven spellcasting techniques, the duskblade combines arcane spellcasting with the combat skills of a fighter. While the ability to cast arcane spells in armor originated with the elves, over the millennia the secrets of the duskblade have been disseminated to the other races, and today members of any race can become a duskblade.

If you find you can't choose between being an arcane spellcaster who zaps your enemies with powerful spells and a nimble, powerful front-line melee character who lays them down with a sword, the duskblade is the perfect class for you. Combining arcane magic with melee prowess, you're prepared in any situation. Enemies who underestimate you never get a second chance, since you don't even have to switch back and forth between hands-on combat and spellcasting; you can do both simultaneously.

MAKING A DUSKBLADE

The duskblade is a quintessential hybrid character, simultaneously a potent spellcaster and an effective melee combatant. The original duskblades were elite guardians in an ancient elf empire, duelmasters and arcane spellcasters beyond compare. Historical accounts vary on why they were called duskblades; some say the name is symbolic of how they combined swordplay and arcane magic - a night-and-day combination. Others contend that the duskblades earned their name when they were charged with preserving the elf race in the face of a tide of darkness and evil.

The most powerful dusklbades can duel a fighter to a stand-still and match a wizard spell for spell - for a while, at least. But the class really comes into its own when you embrace your hybrid nature, using a quick-cast spell to supplement you melee attacks or combining a touch spell with a devastating sword strike.

The duskblade is a good choice for players who know they want a sword-wielding arcane spellcaster from the beginning. By contrast, multiclass fighter/wizard combinations and prestige classes such as the eldritch knight are better suited for characters who begin their careers as fighters or arcane spellcasters and only later contemplate embracing their opposite.

Abilities: Your Intelligence and Strength scores should be as high as possible, since your spellcasting and melee combat depend upon them. Your constitution is also important, because you need all the hit points you can get.

Races:
The duskblade class originated among the ancient elves, and to this day most duskblades are elves. However, some humans and half-elves also have proved adept at mastering the class's dual focus on combat and spellcasting. Halfings, gnomes, dwarves and half-orcs rarely enter this class.

Alignment: Since the duskblade class originated among the elves, those who undergo the intense training required to master the class abilities at the hands of an elf mentor often end their apprenticeship sharing the chaotic good alignment of most elves. However, dusklbades are highly individualist and can be of any alignment.

Starting Gold: 6d4x10 gp (150 gp).
Starting Age: As wizard (PH 109).

CLASS FEATURES

Your class features are simple to characterize: constant improvement in your spellcasting, a fighter's base attack bonus progression, and ever0increasing mastery of arcane magic in melee combat.

Weapon and Armor Proficiency:
Duskblades are proficient with all martial weapons, as well as all armors and shields (except tower shields).

Spells: You cast arcane spells, which are drawn from the duskblade spell list on page 98. You can cast any spell you know without preparing it ahead of time. (ML's note: I'm not going to include 10 pages of spells here. Should you need the writeup on a specific one, ask)

To learn or cast a spell, you must have an Intelligence score equal to at least 10 + the spell level (Int 10 for 0 level spells, Int 11 for 1st-level spells, and so forth). The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against your spell is 10+the spell level+your Int modifier.

You can cast only a certain number of spells of each spell level per day. Your base daily spell allotment is given on Table 1-3. In addition, you receive bonus spells per day if your have a high Intelligence bonus.

Each time you gain a new class level, you learn one additional spell of any level you can cast, chosen from the duskblade spell list.

Upon reaching 5th level, and at every subsequent odd-numbered level, you can choose to learn a new spell in place of one you already know. In effect, you lose access to the old spell in exchange for gaining the new one. The new spell's level must be the same as that of the spell being exchanged, and it must be at least two levels lower than the highest-level spell you can cast. For instance, upon reaching 9th level, you could trade in a single 1st-level spell (two levels below the highest-level spell you can cast, which is 3rd) for a different 1st-level spell. You can swap only a single spell at any given level and must choose whether or not to swap the spell at the same time that you gain new spells known for the level.

You need not prepare spells in advance. You can cast any spell you know at any time, assuming you have not yet used up your spells per day for that spell level.

Arcane Attunement (Sp): You can use the spell-like powers dancing lights, detect magic, flare, ghost sound, and read magic a combined total of times per day equal to 3+your Int modifier. These spell-like powers do not count against your total of spells know or spells per day.

Armored Mage (Ex): Normally, armor of any type interferes with an arcane spellcaster's gestures, which can cause spells to fail if those spells have a somatic component. A duskblades's limited focus and specialized training, however, allows you to avoid arcane spell failure so long as you stick to light armor and light shields. This training does not extend to medium or heavy armors, nor to heavy shields. This ability does not apply to spells gained from a different spellcasting class.

At 4th level, you learn to use medium armor with no chance of arcane spell failure.

At 7th level, you learn to use a heavy shield with no chance of arcane spell failure.

Combat Casting: At 2nd level, you gain Combat Casting as a bonus feat.

Arcane Channeling (Su): Beginning at 3rd level, you can use a standard action to cast any touch spell you know and deliver the spell trough your weapon with a melee attack. Casting a spell in this manner does not provoke attacks of opportunity. The spell must have a casting time of 1 standard action or less. If the melee attack is successful, the attack deals damage normally; then the effect of the spell is resolved.

At 13th level, you can cast any touch spell you know as a part of a full attack action, and the spell affects each target you hit in melee combat that round. Doing so discharges the spell at the end of the round, in the case of a touch spell that would otherwise last longer than 1 round.

Quick Cast: Beginning at 5th level, you can cast one spell each day as a swift action, so long as the casting time of the spell is 1 standard action or less.

You can use this ability twice per day at 10th level, three times per day at 15th level, and four times per day at 20th level.

Spell Power (Ex): Starting at 6th level, you can more easily overcome the spell resistance of any opponent you successfully injure with a melee attack. If you have injured an an opponent with a melee attack, you gain a +2 bonus on your caster level check to overcome spell resistance for the remainder of the encounter. This bonus increases to +3 at 11th level, to +4 at 16th level, and +5 at 18th level.

Class Skills (2 + Int modifier per level, x4 at 1st level): Climb, concentration, Craft, Decipher Script, Jump, Knowledge (all skills taken individually), Ride, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, Swim

Table 1-3: The Duskblade

Level 1: BAB + 1, Fort: +2, Ref +0, Will +2, Arcane attunement, armored mage (light). 0 lvl spells: 3 /day, 1st lvl spells: 2/day

Level 2: BAB + 2, Fort: +3, Ref +0, Will +3, Combat Casting. 0 lvl spells: 4 /day, 1st lvl spells: 3/day

Level 3: BAB + 3, Fort: +3, Ref +1, Will +3, Arcane channeling. 0 lvl spells: 5 /day, 1st lvl spells: 4/day

Level 4: BAB + 4, Fort: +4, Ref +1, Will +4, Armored mage (medium). 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 5/day

Level 5: BAB +5, Fort: +4, Ref +1, Will +4, Quick cast 1/day. 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 5/day, 2nd lvl spells: 2/day

Level 6: BAB +6/+1, Fort: +5, Ref +2, Will +5, Spel power +2. 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 6/day, 2nd lvl spells: 3/day

Level 7: BAB +7/+2, Fort: +5, Ref +2, Will +5, Armored mage (heavy shield). 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 6/day, 2nd lvl spells: 5/day

Level 8: BAB +8/+3, Fort: +6, Ref +2, Will +6, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 7/day, 2nd lvl spells: 6/day

Level 9: BAB +9/+4, Fort: +6, Ref +3, Will +6, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 7/day, 2nd lvl spells: 6/day, 3rd lvl spells: 2/day

Level 10: BAB +10/+5, Fort: +7, Ref +3, Will +7, Quick cast 2/day, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 8/day, 2nd lvl spells: 7/day, 3rd lvl spells: 3/day


Level 11: BAB +11/+6/+1, Fort: +7, Ref +3, Will +7, Spell power +3, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 8/day, 2nd lvl spells: 7/day, 3rd lvl spells: 5/day

Level 12: BAB +12/+7/+2, Fort: +8, Ref +4, Will +8, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 8/day, 2nd lvl spells: 8/day, 3rd lvl spells: 6/day

Level 13: BAB +13/+8/+3, Fort: +8, Ref +4, Will +8, Arcane channeling (full attack) 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 9/day, 2nd lvl spells: 8/day, 3rd lvl spells: 6/day, 4th lvl spells: 2/day

Level 14: BAB +14/+9/+4, Fort: +9, Ref +4, Will +9 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 9/day, 2nd lvl spells: 8/day, 3rd lvl spells: 7/day, 4th lvl spells: 3/day

Level 15: BAB +15/+10/+5, Fort: +9, Ref +5, Will +9, Quick cast 3/day, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 9/day, 2nd lvl spells: 8/day, 3rd lvl spells: 7/day, 4th lvl spells: 5/day

Level 16: BAB +16/+11/+6/+1, Fort: +10, Ref +5, Will +10, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 9/day, 2nd lvl spells: 9/day, 3rd lvl spells: 8/day, 4th lvl spells: 6/day

Level 17: BAB +17/+12/+7/+2, Fort: +10, Ref +5, Will +10, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 10/day, 2nd lvl spells: 9/day, 3rd lvl spells: 8/day, 4th lvl spells: 6/day, 5th lvl spells: 2/day

Level 18: BAB +18/+13/+8/+3, Fort: +11, Ref +6, Will +11, Spell power + 5, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 10/day, 2nd lvl spells: 9/day, 3rd lvl spells: 8/day, 4th lvl spells: 7/day, 5th lvl spells: 3/day

Level 19: BAB +19/+14/+9/+4, Fort: +11, Ref +6, Will +11, 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 10/day, 2nd lvl spells: 9/day, 3rd lvl spells: 9/day, 4th lvl spells: 7/day, 5th lvl spells: 5/day

Level 20: BAB +20/+15/+10/+5, Fort: +12, Ref +6, Will +12, Quick cast 4/day 0 lvl spells: 6 /day, 1st lvl spells: 10/day, 2nd lvl spells: 10/day, 3rd lvl spells: 10/day, 4th lvl spells: 8/day, 5th lvl spells: 6/day[/sblock]
 
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Theroc: Let me look in to it. HM is agianst "dipping" in classes to gain powerful features i think. Otherwise you can't go wrong with 2 levels of Paladin for a CHA based caster.

I'm actually not a fan of dipping myself either, simply because I can always see abilities I'd like to have later in a tree... which becomes problematic. But I do see your point, particularly since almost everything unique about Aidan will be keyed on his charisma.
 

HM, let me see if I understand your proposal for Dragon Disciple.

Instead of, at maximum level, gaining 8 strength, 2 con, 2 int, and 2 cha, he gains 6 strength, 1 con, 1 int, and 1 cha. Instead of gaining +4 NAC, he gains +3 NAC, and his breath weapon (which can be used only once per day) is weakened from a d8 to a d6, his bonus spells become +1 level of existing arcane spellcasting class?
 

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