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my group wants to wait until tomorrow to put in our answers... someone got us a copy of the questions and we are forming a frame work of answers together so far it looks like about 7 of us will stand together... our guess is (if we are lucky) that will make up a small fraction of a % BUT it is the best we can do.
 





JEB

Legend
Just FYI, a set of posts went up on the DDB twitter feed. They are acknowledging that, based on feedback so far, the draft OGL 1.2 'hasn't hit the mark' and that the 'draft VTT policy missed the mark'.

And that's based on more than 10,000 responses!
 


I'm wondering, or rather I should say hoping, if there's a pro-OGL "faction" within WotC management and if they might use the survey as a tool to try and push their view.

I sincerely hope so. This is why I beg you all to stay positive that we might be able to change enough. Lets help the people at wotc who care about 3pp and us.

Everytime someone advices tonboycott forever, we play into the cards of the probably higher ups who think we are not the target group anymore.
 

eyeheartawk

#1 Enworld Jerk™
Everytime someone advices tonboycott forever, we play into the cards of the probably higher ups who think we are not the target group anymore.
If every "vote with your wallet" is to be met with a "don't do that, it'll punish the employees, and if you're not a customer they don't care already anyway" comment, there really isn't a any way to hold corporations accountable, is there?
 

Jer

Legend
Supporter
That last bullet is so key. Even if lawyers can debate over the first two, it's so obvious that they stepped on a third rail that they didn't even realize was there.

I was realizing the other day that the OGL has been around for 23 years. Which means there were people playing the game now who weren't even born before it existed. I mean, I knew that intellectually, but it just kind of clicked emotionally that there is an entire generation of gamers who have never known a D&D without it.
 



Dausuul

Legend
I'm wondering, or rather I should say hoping, if there's a pro-OGL "faction" within WotC management and if they might use the survey as a tool to try and push their view.
I would be very surprised if there weren't such a faction.

But let's not get too hung up on The Exact Right Way to engage. Those who fill out the survey send the signal to Wizards that there are folks willing to give them another chance if they change course. And those who walk away forever send the signal that Wizards is suffering lasting damage the longer this goes on.

The only people who are really not helping here are the people who are doing nothing at all. If you fill out the survey and push Wizards to do better, you're helping. If you cancel your DDB sub, you're helping. If you boycott, you're helping. If you spread the word online, you're helping.

I don't think Wizards is going to change course in the near term. But we have already seen them abandon the OGL and then return to it several years later. That could happen again.
 

TomBombadillo

First Post
As I’m sure you are aware, WotC has recently released a survey on OGL 1.2.

In response to this survey, Cint Group was prompted to host a similar survey. It is important to share unbiased data on this topic, which is why a third-party hosting it is important. The difference in the Cint Group survey is that the raw data will be made available to the public. The community deserves transparency. Open gaming should mean open surveys. Survey
 



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