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someone is missing the point"Someone disagrees with me! They must be fascist!"
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someone is missing the point"Someone disagrees with me! They must be fascist!"
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certainly not if you follow them up the way you doDon't hold your breath for an effect...
I'd love for the OGL 1.0a to stay. But wishes don't accomplish anything.
most of us are I believe, I do not see you pitching in thoughI dunno. Because it would be nice if everyone did something productive?
see above, it is mostly you that everyone disagrees withIf we all worked to make a difference instead of infighting?
I can walk and chew gum at the same timeIf instead of meaningless gestures that WotC won't notice we focused on the issues we actually could influence.
if you feel that way, you are free to leaveBecause all the most passionate people here are just sitting around in verbal circle jerk wasting everyone's time?
I really doubt a lot of people cancel or delete accounts in a two week period. Especially during the holidays when they are busy with other things.Cancelling accounts also creates a support ticket. (As does filing a complaint.) You're reading what you want to read.
Admittedly it is unclear in that article and it does include those details in the same paragraph making it seem like they were talking about deletions.
Especially as outright deleting accounts would be a stupid thing to do. You'd lose all your books you've paid for. And since you can't come back, there's no reason for WotC to make any changes. If you cancel, there's a way for them to get you to return...
However, the support team is also understaffed AND was just returning for the two week holiday break. So a not insignificant number of those tickets were likely unrelated.
I really doubt a lot of people cancel or delete accounts in a two week period. Especially during the holidays when they are busy with other things.
It's late and I thought he said holidays. If not, my bad. Even so, I doubt many cancel or delete accounts during a two week period. The vast majority of those would be due to the news.Wait, what holidays?
It's late and I thought he said holidays. If not, my bad. Even so, I doubt many cancel or delete accounts during a two week period. The vast majority of those would be due to the news.
Anyway. As I said.....................late. Good night.
Edit: He did. "However, the support team is also understaffed AND was just returning for the two week holiday break. So a not insignificant number of those tickets were likely unrelated."
I disagree, but in truth I am talking about what 1.2 can be, not what it is now. i have repeatedly explained there are areas that need correction. That needs to happen. If it doesn't, then I agree 1.2 has serious issues.no it absolutely is not, it can be revoked just as easily as 1.0a (or easier, because 1.0a is older so might be protected by its old language)
Sure, but in truth that is separate (sort of) from the OGL 1.2.WotC's attempts to de-authorize 1.0a are, IMO, the entire issue. Everything else relates to it.
Thank you for your thoughts. He should be, they had him on dialysis last night to remove the toxins so I think that should eliminate any serious risk. I will know for sure later this morning!I hope your pupper is okay.
Nah, not "basically everyone." Sure, there will be a cooling off period. But if WotC took steps to clarify that OGL will not irrevocable and in a way that makes it nearly impossible for them to pull an action like this again--OR--even if they revoke v1a, but give nearly everything that was in v1a, plus some new content, in v2, making it irrevocable, I would say most people would come back to D&D 5e / One D&D. I don't know about most, but certainly many of those expressing anger and disappointment are people who WANT to play D&D, who want to create for D&D, and who want to enrich their game with third-party content for D&D. That where the emotion comes from for many people. Sure, some just don't like WotC or even D&D and enjoy piling on, but that isn't "basically everyone." Many people may leave D&D for some new system published under the ORCL and never look back, but that won't be "basically everyone."Basically everyone. Right now it's a pressure pot of nastiness causing people to make rash decisions, cancel Kickstarters, not complete projects they've been working on, etc. If WotC backed off completely that would give everyone time to do their thing until they found a better license, i.e. the ORC comes out. People would still be pissed and still likely move away from 5E and WotC over this, but at least the immediacy of it would die.
Absolutely not. It's using material I paid for before the company I bought it from decided to be terrible to me. I was going to buy Dragonlance, maybe Planescape, maybe even 6e if there was something in there my players wanted to use. Now I have chosen not to, and would encourage others to do the same. They get nothing more from me.It's not really a "boycott" if you're still playing the game and attracting new players to that game.
That's like boycotting McDonalds but still eating at the restaurant if someone else pays.
Why do you keep insisting that anyone had the ability to say that their product was, "D&D compatible" under the 1.0a? They don't, and they never have.The junior high I work at started a D&D club this year, and already had enough people for three tables by mid-October.
Every year, new kids become old enough to watch Stranger Things or Critical Role for the first time. And WotC is working hard to attract new young players to the "brand" hoping they'll eventually start playing, with and multiple books aimed at young readers (1 2 3 4).
Which is probably why they want to push the 1.2 OGL so hard. They want to be this family friendly game that attracts young teens to the game, and don't want that jeopardized by offensive or needlessly adult products with "D&D compatible" slapped on the front.
Where are these upset parents, and what product are they upset about? Show me any example of this made-up, hypothetical problem.Fiiiiiiine.
"Compatible with the Fifth Edition of the Word's Oldest/ Best/ Most Popular Roleplaying game."
I'm sure not actually mentioning "D&D" but just using the same rules and being sold alongside the D&D books will placate upset parents, who are always the most rational individuals in society.
Yeah that's a bizarre claim.Why do you keep insisting that anyone had the ability to say that their product was, "D&D compatible" under the 1.0a? They don't, and they never have.
This really doesn't have anything to do with upset parents. Most parents are going to buy the games from Amazon, a major retailer, or get their kids a D&D Beyond subscription.Fiiiiiiine.
"Compatible with the Fifth Edition of the Word's Oldest/ Best/ Most Popular Roleplaying game."
I'm sure not actually mentioning "D&D" but just using the same rules and being sold alongside the D&D books will placate upset parents, who are always the most rational individuals in society.
which is quite a big hurdle though, isn’t it?Honestly, I don't see it as much of a hurdle for Foundry other than the loss of revenue from 5E users
Maybe, it depends on where people decide to go. The foundry revenue stream is a one shot deal. They may get more from refugees that move to Pathfinder, it's hard to say. Since many people playing 5E on Foundry already paid, they may move over to Pathfinder as it is supported by the VTT tool they currently use.which is quite a big hurdle though, isn’t it?