Oh boy...

Mustrum_Ridcully said:

The authors of Andromeda are advised to rely more on "stand alone" episodes, and focus less on the "build up the Commonwealth" storyline.


Actually, the Commonwealth storyline has been more or less resolved. Dylan got his 50 worlds at the end of last season, and the current season has been more episodic in nautre. Unfortunately, most of the episodes this season have been relatively boring as a result, IMO. There've been a few exceptions; the alternate timeline cause by the tesseracting machine was a good one.
 

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S'mon said:
If TOS was the Cold War 1960s in space, and TNG the touchy-feely 1990s, shouldn't Enterprise be the 1800s? A Wild Frontier feel and lots of violence would surely be better for the ratings... :)

LOL!! :)
 

S'mon said:

If TOS was the Cold War 1960s in space, and TNG the touchy-feely 1990s, shouldn't Enterprise be the 1800s? A Wild Frontier feel and lots of violence would surely be better for the ratings... :)
As long as they stick to the timeline. :p

If they can do it in the storytelling approach of old western shows like Gunsmoke, The Rifleman, and Bonanza, it's probably better than Braga's method.
 

Ranger REG said:

As long as they stick to the timeline. :p

If they can do it in the storytelling approach of old western shows like Gunsmoke, The Rifleman, and Bonanza, it's probably better than Braga's method.

I agree with you - what I find odd is that the Trek timeline seems generally to go from 'less peaceful' to 'more peaceful', and the indications from TOS are that the early days of galactic exploration involved much war, conflict and such exciting events that ought to be good for ratings. Miniskirts, likewise. :)

Yet 'Enterprise' mostly comes across as a rather soggy, unexciting show, a retro version of Next Generation, with the values and attitudes of TNG/DS9/Voyager already fully formed - ie, more of the same.

When I sit down to watch an episode, and switch channels halfway through because it's so boring, I know something's wrong. This seems a great shame - the pilot ep was good stuff, but it seems to be falling painfully short of its promise.
 

Ranger REG said:

As long as they stick to the timeline. :p

If they can do it in the storytelling approach of old western shows like Gunsmoke, The Rifleman, and Bonanza, it's probably better than Braga's method.

Not to mention that it probably mesh well with Roddenberry's old "Wagon Train" to the stars view of TOS.
 

A few random thoughts:

* So far, nothing that has been shown has obviated anything from the other TV series. Canon has been tweaked around here and there - and in a good way, I believe - but there is still 100 years of history to go before the time of Kirk and Spock. A lot can happen in 100 years: there is still plenty of time for the Vulcans to stop being weiners, plenty of time to form the Federation, plenty of time for the Klingons to get mad at the still-not-formed Federation and start a war, plenty of time for the Romulans to start a war also, etc. etc. Plus, it's not like the original Star Trek was all that concerned with its own canon way back when, so there were plenty of inconsistencies even back then.

* The Enterprise cast and the setting do deserve better than what they've gotten. There have been a few too many blah episodes lately. A change in the behind-the-scenes folk, especially producers and writers, seems reasonable to me, rather than chucking the series altogether.

* I actually find the Vulcans interesting, as they're shown on Enterprise - I really want to see how the influence of the humans begins to change their society, so they go from being the rigid, unimaginative, hypocritical society they are in Enterprise, to the slightly-less-rigid, slightly-less-unimaginative, rather less hypocritical society we see in the original show and beyond. Plus, I'd like to see how they go from being the dominant player to being basically second banana to the humans.
 

ColonelHardisson said:

* So far, nothing that has been shown has obviated anything from the other TV series. Canon has been tweaked around here and there - and in a good way, I believe - but there is still 100 years of history to go before the time of Kirk and Spock. A lot can happen in 100 years: there is still plenty of time for the Vulcans to stop being weiners, plenty of time to form the Federation, plenty of time for the Klingons to get mad at the still-not-formed Federation and start a war, plenty of time for the Romulans to start a war also, etc. etc. Plus, it's not like the original Star Trek was all that concerned with its own canon way back when, so there were plenty of inconsistencies even back then.
From where I'm viewing, their canon-tweaking just plain irked me. Ever since they featured the Klingon on the first episode just left me with a bad taste.

So far the only good thing is the early relationship with the Vulcan since First Contact and the initial meeting with the Andorians.

Coupled with a handful of episode that I do like, such as "Stigma," it could have changed my view regarding Braga. That is, until they announced there will be Borg appearing in later episode. :rolleyes:


* The Enterprise cast and the setting do deserve better than what they've gotten. There have been a few too many blah episodes lately. A change in the behind-the-scenes folk, especially producers and writers, seems reasonable to me, rather than chucking the series altogether.
I agree. Let's hope that Braga did not pull a new character out of his ass.


* I actually find the Vulcans interesting, as they're shown on Enterprise - I really want to see how the influence of the humans begins to change their society, so they go from being the rigid, unimaginative, hypocritical society they are in Enterprise, to the slightly-less-rigid, slightly-less-unimaginative, rather less hypocritical society we see in the original show and beyond. Plus, I'd like to see how they go from being the dominant player to being basically second banana to the humans.
I find their strange conflict relationship to be refreshing, almost taken from another Gene Roddenberry show, Earth: First Contact.
 

The Andorians have been a delight. Good episodes everytime they appear.

I like that some of the aliens from the original show have been making appearances - the Tholians, for example. I really got a kick out of them. I thought it was a bit too obvious when they took out the Vulcan ship - I called that way before it happened. Anyway...let's hope the Gorn show up.

I got really tired of the Borg after they became as ubiquitous as the Cylons were in Battlestar Galactica. They were a cool, enigmatic race when they first appeared, very menacing. They were unsettling, which was something I was glad to see in Star Trek. The writers and producers went to the Borg well way too many times; used sparingly, they would have remained a great "boogey man" for Star Trek. Used as they were, they just got annoying.
 

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