Ancalagon
Dusty Dragon
The best cleric, is a dead cleric. It's the lesson that is evergreen.
You're diluting your brand!
The best cleric, is a dead cleric. It's the lesson that is evergreen.
Just stop and think about that for a moment, folks. 5e has 'gone' a considerable way, but the edition immediately prior to it had gone further. So it has actually /not/ gone in that way, at all, it's merely backed off from it, just not all the way back. Once again, 5e gets credit for moving forward when it's been going backwards.I agree with others that 5e has gone a considerable way (more than any other edition than 4e) to right the "we need a cleric" ship.
Even in 4e, you theoretically needed a 'leader' Role to restore hps & generally support the party, you were just free to fill that slot with a variety of concepts running the gamut of Sources. In 5e you can be a nature-oriented healer (Druid, maybe Ranger a bit), a divine healer (Cleric or Paladin), or an arcane healer (if you have a good singing voice: Bard). In 4e you could also be a psionic leader (Ardent) or martial leader (Warlord), and had more than one choice of primal (Shaman as well as Sentinel Druid) and even arcane (Artificer as well as Bard), oh, yeah, and Divine, again (RunePriests as well as Clerics & secondary-leader Paladins).Over-correction? I don't think so.
The Cleric's still the cleric - the armored pious glowy guy who heals and turns undead. I've been calling it 'support' because healer is too narrow, and leader is too 4e. ;PAs to what role the cleric has now -- I would go with a "white mage" type role, though I realize clerics aren't all 'good' in that sense. It may be that their turning/channel divinity powers could be beefed up to be more of a fight evil (as 5e defines it, outsiders, elementals, and fey) iconic power.
The cleric was just standing too close to the paladin when you went off.I’m not anti-cleric.
I’m pro-Bargle!
I’m not anti-cleric.
I’m pro-Bargle!
Just stop and think about that for a moment, folks. 5e has 'gone' a considerable way, but the edition immediately prior to it had gone further. So it has actually /not/ gone in that way, at all, it's merely backed off from it, just not all the way back. Once again, 5e gets credit for moving forward when it's been going backwards.
Even in 4e, you theoretically needed a 'leader' Role to restore hps & generally support the party,