One miiiilllliiiooon dollars!

You seem to be 100% correct. I pledged $14 and was charged straight away.
What do you actually do? Are you donating that money, or are you loaning investment capital? Because what I heard about kickstarters is that it's used to enable small businesses to raise the money they need to get their product into production without having to take a massive bank loan.
 

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^Not at all. You are giving the money for the project, normally the project creator/s give something back (a product) but they do not have to. Kickstarter is for however wants to use it in the hope of getting money although it says it is focused on creative endeavours .

It works like this, you agree to pay amazon X amount when you make your pledge, but this money is only taken by amazon IF the pledge reaches it's goal. IF the goal is not met, no money changes hands. You can change your pledge up until the time period of the kickstarter is ended. The instant the time period ends (and only if the goal is met) amazon charges your card. It then pays the creator, minus 5% fees.

Simple as pie.
 

That part is easy. You don't want to donate to a cause and then the whole project gets canceled because of insufficient founding and the people who set it up are left with the money and nothing to do.
 

That part is easy. You don't want to donate to a cause and then the whole project gets canceled because of insufficient founding and the people who set it up are left with the money and nothing to do.
Cancelled after the goal has been reached? Yeah that is possible, there is a lot of trust involved in making a pledge. You've got to have faith that the creators will see through the project and get you your reward as promised.
 

What do you actually do? Are you donating that money, or are you loaning investment capital? Because what I heard about kickstarters is that it's used to enable small businesses to raise the money they need to get their product into production without having to take a massive bank loan.

It is not a loan. Promising to repay provided funds is strictly prohibited. Selling shares in a company or project (or promising a cut of any proceeds achieved by whatever is funded) is also strictly prohibited.

Dropping all jargon, it works like this:

People who want to make various projects go to Kickstarter. These projects are supposed to be creative in nature, they are for designing video games, or building some tech gadget, or some work of art, or publishing a book, or funding a play, and so on.

They are not for generating general operating capital for a company, and it is not a loan.

Kickstarter is a way for a creative person to raise money from a wide variety of people. Every Kickstarter project has a minimum goal that is set when the project is established. If it fails to generate that much in promised fundraising, none of the funds are delivered. This way people aren't contributing to a project that won't have enough money to be successful.

They have to be projects for doing something specific, for making/creating/doing something. It can't be general fundraising for an organization or cause, for general living expenses for an artist or operating expenses for a company.

Kickstarter projects generally include some kind of premium for the pledge of funds. This could be tickets to the play when it starts, a copy of the book being produced, a copy of the video game being made, a T-shirt or mug with the project name/logo on it, and so on.

You know those "pledge drives" on PBS and NPR where they offer various incentives in exchange for a donation? It's similar to that. However, when you make a pledge, you are providing payment information to Kickstarter, through Amazon. They take your credit card information, but do not charge you until the drive closes (remember, if the project does not meet it's goal, no money changes hands).

In the Order of the Stick case, it started out as a relatively modest effort to raise money to reprint the OotS compilation volume "War and XP's", as a response to the constant requests Rich was getting to reprint the OotS books. Order of the Stick, including the books, is completely self-published. He has had to outlay the funds from his own pocket to cover the initial print runs of every book, which have all sold out.

Rich was very afraid he couldn't raise the $57,750 it would take for a minimum-size print run of that book, but he said at least then he would have an answer for why the books were out of print. For those that weren't buying a copy of the book, the basic pledge reward was the "How the Paladin got his scar" PDF comic (so even if you had all the books, or couldn't afford the books, you could still contribute and get something new you couldn't get any other way, and since O'Chul is a fan-favorite character, a lot of fans would like to see his backstory). He kept adding more incentive PDFs to keep pledges pouring in once it was clear this had a lot of support.

He met that initial goal, with plenty to spare, within 48 hours. He raised more than 20 times that goal, and as more and more money poured in, he expanded the reprint drive to every OotS book, and then to various OotS side-projects he'd wanted to do for some time (the coloring book, the boardgame expansion).
 

I got charged by Amazon for both my Kickstarter pledges for OOTS. One for me, a book and some extras, and once for my daughter, Swag pack #1. Over $110 total.
 

And now I failed my save further against confusion. I'll have to check my credit card reciept but I got via email
"Your Payment to Giant in the Playground has succeeded" straight after pledging.

Maybe I just got in with my pledge before it finnished.

Probably. I got my pledge in weeks ago, and got the "Your Payment to Giant in the Playground has succeeded" message nine hours ago.
 

I'm pretty sure it works like this:

1. When you make a pledge (or change it), Amazon runs an authorization check against your card. This confirms that the card is valid, and places a lock on the amount pledged, but doesn't actually charge you anything. (Car rental companies do the same thing in many countries to cover the insurance excess when you rent a car.)

2. When the pledge finishes, if it is successful, you then get billed. If it isn't successful, they release the hold and you aren't charged.
 

I got both my pledge email payment confirmation emails, money taken out of my amazon payment for both. (I pledged in my name and once for my daughter.)
 

Cancelled after the goal has been reached? Yeah that is possible, there is a lot of trust involved in making a pledge. You've got to have faith that the creators will see through the project and get you your reward as promised.

(Not directed at mach1.0pants, but in general)

I know there are sometimes issues, but failing to pay after agreeing via kickstarter is LAME. Everybody knows the date the kickstarter pledge ends (in this case, especially, since it has had high visibility), therefore if you pledge "to be cool" and can't make the payment, it screws the kickstarter fundraiser.

If you can't make your payment, you mismanaged your funds. It is unprofessional, irresponsible, childish and LAME*. If you didn't think you could make the payment by the due date, you CANCEL YOUR BID THE DAY BEFORE. It is instant with Amazon.

*assuming there's no "OMG, I crashed my car today!" or "my wife/child broke a bone today!"
 
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