Only the Lonely: Why We Demand Official Product

[Maxperson]

And, frankly, if the only reason that the DM is saying no is that the DM happens to just not like that particular race, I don't have a lot of sympathy. It's not your character.

Why do you want to ruin the DM's fun by forcing something he doesn't like into the game? Seems fairly selfish of any player who would try that.

 

[Tallifer]

Holy False Equivalence Batman! When Dodos and other animals achieve intelligence and the ability to use magic, including the ability to teleport and shift planes, get back to me on how they are the same as Dragonborn.

Narnia and Oz for the win.

 

[Zardnaar]

Why do you want to ruin the DM's fun by forcing something he doesn't like into the game? Seems fairly selfish of any player who would try that.

Yeah no DM no game.

 

[Sadras]

To be fair if a player feels browbeaten because I've nixed dragonborn and monk on the payable menu well then it would probably be best if we do not share a table.

I mean we are talking about having the option to play at least 8 other possible races, their sub-races, over 10 classes and their numerous subclasses and a multitude of backgrounds. I'm no statician but that is a gross amount of possiblities.

 

[MNblockhead]

My first 5e campaign involved a homebrew setting in which I only allowed PCs that were human, dwarf, or halfling and no arcane magic users at first level. I wanted to explore a concept and I was very clear about the limitations in my pitch for players. The campaign lasted over a year. If everyone at the table agrees to a set of limitations or homebrew rules, I see no cause for objection.

 

[Maxperson]

To be fair if a player feels browbeaten because I've nixed dragonborn and monk on the payable menu well then it would probably be best if we do not share a table.

I mean we are talking about having the option to play at least 8 other possible races, their sub-races, over 10 classes and their numerous subclasses and a multitude of backgrounds. I'm no statician but that is a gross amount of possiblities.

Not only that, but there are a multitude of different ways to play the same combination. There are 5 in my group. We could all easily make very different Dwarven Fighter/Battle Masters with the Soldier background.

 

[Azzy]

Have you read Dragonborn in 5e? They are numerous enough to form the ranks of entire armies in great wars. That requires a large population.

There is nothing that requires using that fluff. For example, Eberron doesn't use that story at all.

 

[Hussar]

Sorry, @Maxperson, but, have you read the 5e description of Dragonborn? Can you point to where it states that they are so numerous they form armies? Sure, they serve as soldiers, but, "form great armies"? Apparently my 5e PHB is different than yours.

And, again, if my playing a given race is going to "ruin the game" for the DM, yeah, I have very little interest in playing with such an inflexible DM. Yeah, thanks, but, no thanks. I'd much rather play with a DM who sees a new idea as a opportunity to be incorporated into the game rather than some power play to be smacked down.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Agree. Doesn't mean I agree you get to okay as that new race though. I'm fine with ask the DM.

Even FR doesn't remove the PHB thing. Yes the other races exist RAW, DM doesn't have to let you play them.

Indeed. I once said "no elves" because I knew they where coming up as antagonists. And I have a permanent ban on kenku.

But that has nothing to do if the race exists in the world or not, whether they are common or obscure or not.

 

[Maxperson]

Sorry, @Maxperson, but, have you read the 5e description of Dragonborn? Can you point to where it states that they are so numerous they form armies? Sure, they serve as soldiers, but, "form great armies"? Apparently my 5e PHB is different than yours.

You should by a WotC version, then.

Page 32. "...others form the ranks of soldiers in great wars..."

Form THE ranks. Not some ranks. Not a few ranks. But THE ranks, which means all the ranks for the great war. Great war. Not skirmish. Not battle. Not normal war. Not small war. GREAT war.