TheOneAboveAll
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Darned internet ate my reply.
It was long and indepth and brilliant, but I will condense it down to a particular thought:
How do you balance the ability to kill people with a sword with the ability to be socially charming? Depending on the situation either has the ability to be dramatically more powerful than the other.
You can't say because character A can beat character B in a straight up fight character A is more powerful, because not all things are factored in. Weighing how much being charming is "worth" as compared to wacking someone in the head with a sword is completely subjective depending on the situation, the game, the GM and the player. So achieving balance is at best fleeting and at worst an illusion.
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Oh and about the broad range, my point was those were all universally higher than mine (with the +49 being a touch attack). So make your Armor Class as high as you can within your character conception if you intend to make not being hit your primary defense. Displacement will help. Be careful though, I think you will need to worry about spells more (and don't make the mistake of believing a paltry 40 SR is going to stop anything from a dedicated 30th level mage)
Darned internet ate my reply.
It was long and indepth and brilliant, but I will condense it down to a particular thought:
How do you balance the ability to kill people with a sword with the ability to be socially charming? Depending on the situation either has the ability to be dramatically more powerful than the other.
You can't say because character A can beat character B in a straight up fight character A is more powerful, because not all things are factored in. Weighing how much being charming is "worth" as compared to wacking someone in the head with a sword is completely subjective depending on the situation, the game, the GM and the player. So achieving balance is at best fleeting and at worst an illusion.
Edit:
Oh and about the broad range, my point was those were all universally higher than mine (with the +49 being a touch attack). So make your Armor Class as high as you can within your character conception if you intend to make not being hit your primary defense. Displacement will help. Be careful though, I think you will need to worry about spells more (and don't make the mistake of believing a paltry 40 SR is going to stop anything from a dedicated 30th level mage)
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TheOneAboveAll
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Also should I assume if the book was not mentioned [mini's, draconomnicon and other WOTC products] or arms and armor from bastion press, they are disallowed? I will have something preliminary later tonight and something more fleshed out by the end of the week.
Oh and thanks for running the game.
Oh and I am terrible with math and numbers crunching. At level 30 waht are the buoffs for 4 and for 6? I got a couple of ideas.
Oh and thanks for running the game.
Oh and I am terrible with math and numbers crunching. At level 30 waht are the buoffs for 4 and for 6? I got a couple of ideas.
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If the book isn't listed, then you can't use it I'm afraid.
What exactly are you speaking of for level 30? Buoffs? This is a word I do not know.
What exactly are you speaking of for level 30? Buoffs? This is a word I do not know.
TheOneAboveAll
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I am sorry,
A 30th level character when using the reducing level adjustment rules in UAwhat would be the exp. point cost and final levels if one bought off either 4 or 6 levels?
A 30th level character when using the reducing level adjustment rules in UAwhat would be the exp. point cost and final levels if one bought off either 4 or 6 levels?
That would explain why I didn't understand what you were saying, I have no clue what you are talking about. 
I don't own UA so sorry can't help you with the math, but am I understanding correctly that there is a varient rule that would allow you to spend experience points to buy off Level Adjustment?
I don't own UA so sorry can't help you with the math, but am I understanding correctly that there is a varient rule that would allow you to spend experience points to buy off Level Adjustment?
TheOneAboveAll
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Yes, there is.
Whenever you advance a number of class levels equal to 3 times your current LA, you are eligible to reduce your LA by 1. It costs (current ECL-1)x1000 xp. Your LA is then reduced by 1. If it isn't reduced to 0, when you again advance a number of class levels equal to 3 times your current LA, you are again eligble (same cost).
Examples:
Drow LA +2
Eligible for reduction at class level 6 and 9.
At level 6 it costs 7000xp ((6 class level +2 LA -1)x1000xp)
At level 9 it costs 9000xp ((9 class levels +1 LA -1)x1000xp)
Half-Celestial LA +4
Eligible for reducation at class level 12, 21, 27 and 30.
At level 12 it costs 15000xp ((12 CL + 4 LA -1)x1000xp)
at level 21 it costs 23000xp ((21 CL + 3 LA - 1)x1000xp)
at level 27 it costs 28000xp ((27 CL + 2 LA - 1)x1000xp)
at level 30 it costs 30000xp ((30 CL + 1 LA - 1)x1000xp)
At our current level, you will only be able to have reduced your LA to +1, you need to get to ECL 31 (30 class levels plus the +1 LA) to reduce it that one last time.
Examples:
Drow LA +2
Eligible for reduction at class level 6 and 9.
At level 6 it costs 7000xp ((6 class level +2 LA -1)x1000xp)
At level 9 it costs 9000xp ((9 class levels +1 LA -1)x1000xp)
Half-Celestial LA +4
Eligible for reducation at class level 12, 21, 27 and 30.
At level 12 it costs 15000xp ((12 CL + 4 LA -1)x1000xp)
at level 21 it costs 23000xp ((21 CL + 3 LA - 1)x1000xp)
at level 27 it costs 28000xp ((27 CL + 2 LA - 1)x1000xp)
at level 30 it costs 30000xp ((30 CL + 1 LA - 1)x1000xp)
At our current level, you will only be able to have reduced your LA to +1, you need to get to ECL 31 (30 class levels plus the +1 LA) to reduce it that one last time.
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